[EM] the 'who' and the 'what'
Michael Allan
mike at zelea.com
Sat Sep 27 05:59:35 PDT 2008
Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
> It seems this system would be more stable than I originally thought. Third
> parties could run as parts of the Condorcet party without running much of a
> risk, since they would otherwise get no votes at all. The defection danger
> surfaces when the third parties have become sufficiently large from using
> that parallel electoral system. Then a party that would win a plurality
> vote but who isn't a Condorcet winner has an incentive to defect.
There might be nowhere to defect to. The success of a minor party
candidate is not necessarily the success of the minor party. Whatever
attracts and holds the votes - candidate, party, or something else -
will be strengthened by those votes.
Or there might be (in a sense) no means of defection. Consider that
the parallel system is nothing but a medium for the expression of
public opinion. If it is also a continuous medium (vote recasting)
then a would-be defector may be unable to escape its scrutiny. (Raph
is asking whether this is legal. ?)
> Following that kind of reasoning, it would appear that conventional parties
> have very little to lose by running Condorcet primaries instead of
> Plurality primaries, more so if there's an open primary. (So why don't
> they?)
Maybe technology is a factor. Pooling votes (by Condorcet counts
etc.) is a technical and administrative challenge. It may have been a
higher barrier in the past than now.
Also, if it performs the same function as the party systems (primary
selection) without itself being a party, then it is a competitor to
the parties. Party administrators ought to oppose it because it cuts
into their turf. It returns that turf to the members and candidates
in the form of a wider playing field. So it threatens to dissolve the
parties *internally* even as it promises to pool them *externally*.
(Maybe if it succeeds, it could dissolve them down to their historic,
pre-Gladstone roots, as a constellation of one-candidate parties?)
--
Michael Allan
Toronto, 647-436-4521
http://zelea.com/
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