[EM] Why We Shouldn't Count Votes with Machines

[Kathy Dopp]

Jonathan

Not a bad solution at all Jonathan, although there is a lack of
transparency to any electronic count for the average citizen - and
IRV/STV counting methods are virtually impossible to audit with
anything less than a 100% manual count and are virtually impossible to
accurately manually count in some election contests.

But I like this solution for any alternative voting method that does
not have all the other severe flaws of the IRV/STV method.

Ballot level auditing does have certain challenges as you mention.

Kathy

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jonathan Lundell <jlundell at pobox.com> wrote:

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>
> BTW, it seems to me that there's a relatively straightforward solution in
> principle to the problem of computerized vote counting, based on the use of
> separate data-entry and counting processes. Let voters vote on paper, either
> by hand or with an electronic marking machine, enter the ballot data,
> perhaps by scanning, in such a way that the resulting ballot data can be
> verified by hand against the paper ballots, and permit counting by multiple
> independent counting programs.
>
> There are nontrivial details to be resolved, in particular ballot secrecy
> and the resolution of conflicting results, but it seems to me that it's a
> fairly contained set of problems.
>



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