[Election-Methods] Can someone point me at an example of the nonmonotonicity of IRV?

Kathy Dopp kathy.dopp at gmail.com
Wed Aug 6 15:38:56 PDT 2008


Someone called me today and pointed out in a way that it finally sunk
in how awful it is that voters can actually cause their own first
choice candidate to LOSE by casting votes for their first choice
candidate in IRV elections.

Could someone please point me to a fairly simple (if possible) example
of the nonmonotonicity feature of IRV elections where adding say two
more votes for candidate A causes candidate A to lose whereas
candidate A would have won the election without the addition of the
two more first choice votes?

I find it absolutely astounding now that I think about it, that anyone
could support a method where the voters going to the polls cannot know
if their first choice votes for a candidate would hurt or help their
candidate!

Thanks.

Pretty soon, if I find one more flaw of IRV, I'm going to have to
revise the title of the paper to "20 flaws & 3 benefits of IRV..."

-- 

Kathy Dopp

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