[EM] Trees by Proxy

Dave Ketchum davek at clarityconnect.com
Mon Mar 26 21:49:56 PDT 2007

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:01:11 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

> At 08:50 PM 3/26/2007, Dave Ketchum wrote:
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:23:10 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
>>>Proxy voting is not normal for legislatures.
>>Hooray!  I am proposing proxies as a method of electing a 
>>legislature, not as a means of torturing how they perform their tasks.

I count Abd's direct voting as torture.
      I reject loading down my basic proposal with such.
      However, if anyone thinks it is worth the pain, they could add it - 
I see no conflict with the basic proposal.

>>>>     For some legislature to do this would be to make up their own luck.
>>>>>(2) Proxy assignments can be revoked at any time by notice to the 
>>>>>affected bodies by the principal.
>>>>Since I propose EXACTLY this, sounds like carelessness.
>>>>Actually, he wants them to take effect instantly - something I see 
>>>>as too destructive.
>>Abd cannot see the difference.  I SAID that a proxy can be revoked
>>at any time.  The statement Abd offered agreed, probably unintentionally,
>>since it says nothing as to a delay before the revocation takes effect.

We are splitting hairs.
>>>>While a legislature should have some rule making ability, I 
>>>>believe experience has shown that much of the rules BETTER be standardized.
>>>The rules *are* standardized, but they are subject to change by the 
>>>legislature. This isn't too difficult to understand, and it is 
>>>beyond me why Ketchum seems to argue with it.
>>AND, when a legislature gets into this, they had best understand 
>>what is permitted for them to decide.
> *Of course.* But what if they don't? And who is it that permits and 
> does not permit, when it comes to their own rules?

Constitutions, and laws imposed by higher legislatures, must be obeyed.
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