[Election-Methods] RE : Re: RE : Re: Borda-elimination, a Condorcet method for public elections?
Kevin Venzke
stepjak at yahoo.fr
Sat Dec 22 13:55:33 PST 2007
Jonathan,
--- Jonathan Lundell <jlundell at pobox.com> a écrit :
> It's easy to produce a counterexample for a multiple-seat STV
> election. Here the voter must deal with two different contingencies:
> my first choice might be eliminated, or my first choice might be
> elected with a surplus. My sincere second choice might well be
> different in those two cases; I might prefer A if only one of my top
> choices is elected, but prefer B and C if two are to be elected (let's
> say, for example, that B and C have complementary virtues, but that
> either alone might be less effective than A in representing my views).
>
> This problem doesn't arise in a single-seat STV (IRV/AV) election, of
> course.
>
> At the moment, my guess is that in fact the a difference arises only
> because of the different opportunities for manipulation presented by
> the different voting systems, but the question of whether a voter's
> sincere ranking might be different is intriguing.
I think your multi-winner example is legitimate... You are asked which
candidates (potentially plural) you want representing you, but you are only
able to specify a ranking of single candidates.
I don't think you could substantially change the situation by using a
different multi-winner rule, though. It's more a characteristic of this
pairing of ballot format and purpose.
I'm not sure what a good analogy would be in the single-winner case.
Kevin Venzke
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