[EM] 3ballot - revolutionary new protocol for secure secret ballot elections

[Dave Ketchum]

Adding a couple trivial notes:

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:38:43 +0300 Juho wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:58 , David Cary wrote:
> 
> 
>>--- Dave Ketchum <davek at clarityconnect.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ps, As to privacy, I read of video-camera phones.  Their usage has
>>>to be tricky - can they verify a voter's actual vote as such
>>
>>without
>>
>>>voting machine operation being set up compatible with such?
>>>
>>>ps, quoting:  "I doubt there is a voting system in existence that
>>>is immune from enough vote verification to support vote buying or
>>>coercion" The lever machines I have been voting on all my life are
>>>immune, for they keep NONE of the records of interest.
>>
>>If a voter wants to document how she voted, I was thinking in terms
>>of her taking a short video showing herself, the relevant details of
>>her marked ballot, and her casting that ballot as her vote.  Such
>>documentation can certainly be falsified or made to be deceptive.
>>But as long as for most people such countermeasures cost more in
>>time, effort, and expertise than they are worth, such documentation
>>is probably sufficient for a vote buying scheme. It could work
>>regardless of whether she was casting her ballot with pen and paper,
>>an electronic touch screen machine, or a mechanical voting machine.
>>
>>I suppose a voting mechanism could be divised that would resist video
>>documentation, but I doubt it would be sufficiently usable for most
>>people.
>>
>>-- Dave Cary
> 
> 
> I just wrote some comments also to Dave Ketchum on the risks of video  
> but I'll try to summarise them here (and add something too).
> 
> Defences against video camera recording (and associated vote buying  
> and coercion)
> - Formally ban video cameras and cameras and any recording
>      - This at least helps coerced voters to say that they were not  
> allowed to record the voting event
>      - This also makes it ok for other people to remind their fellow  
> citizens if they try to break the rule

This ban is worth thought.

> - The voting machines could be put in open space where one can see  
> what the voter does but not how she votes

The open space is expensive.  Having right capability is tricky.

> - One could use electronic equipment that reveals any working  
> electronic devices

BUT, even without DREs, any serious precinct will include electronic 
equipment.  Btw, my cell phone is incapable of taking pictures.

>      - Maybe one should leave also cellular phones etc. to the voting  
> officials when voting
>      - Walking through a metal detector could be implemented
> 
> Maybe this level of control is already paranoic, but let's first  
> study all the extreme ways to implement the security and then decide  
> what is really needed. :-)
> 
> Juho Laatu
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