# [EM] MMPO satisfies FBC in the general case

Russ Paielli 6049awj02 at sneakemail.com
Mon May 23 22:09:52 PDT 2005

```Kevin,

MMPO sounds interesting -- even though it fails the Condorcet criterion.

I note that it selects the candidate with the minimum of the maximum
pairwise votes against. Just out of curiousity, have you (or anyone
else, as far as you know) considered the converse, selecting the
candidate with the maximum of the minimum pairwise votes in favor?

--Russ

Kevin Venzke stepjak-at-yahoo.fr |EMlist| wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I said recently that I believed I could prove that MMPO (MinMax
> Pairwise Opposition, aka Simpson-Kramer) satisfies FBC. This is
> my attempt at this.
>
> This is what I intend to show: Suppose that a set of like-minded
> voters rank their favorite candidate A insincerely low. And
> suppose that another candidate X is the MMPO winner. Then, these
> voters have a way of raising A to equal-first which does not
> result in the election of some candidate liked less than X.
>
> First, I'll define MMPO, for clarity: The voters rank the
> candidates; any preference order is admissible. Let v[a,b]
> signify the number of voters ranking A above B. Let o[a]
> signify v[x,a] where X is the candidate whose selection maximizes
> this value. Then the MMPO winner is the candidate Y who minimizes
> o[y].
>
> An important feature is that increasing the value of v[a,b]
> can only increase o[b], and thus can only harm B and no other
> candidate. Conversely, decreasing v[a,b] can only help B, and
> no other candidate.
>
> Back to the situation described above: X wins, which means
> o[x] is the minimum.
>
> Now, suppose our like-minded voters all raise A and X to equal
> first. This could decrease o[a] and o[x], but not increase it.
> This is because A and X are only being raised above other
> candidates, so that votes against A and X may only decrease.
>
> For another candidate Y, raising A and X to equal-first can
> increase o[y] but not decrease it. This is because Y can
>
> Therefore, now either o[a] or o[x] is minimum, and the new MMPO
> winner is either A or X.
>
> (I welcome any critiques of this demonstration. If it's true
> that MMPO satisfies FBC, then we have a method which satisfies
> FBC, LNHarm, and three-candidate Participation.)
>
>
> I investigated also CDTT,RandomCandidate, but it appears to violate
> the spirit of FBC. I have supposed recently that, for methods
> that only use the pairwise matrix, FBC seems to imply a
> criterion which says "Increasing v[a,b] must not increase the
> probability that the winner comes from {a,b}."
>
> But suppose there is a majority-strength cycle B>C>D>B, with
> another candidate A with no majority-strength wins or losses.
> The CDTT is {a,b,c,d}. But if we increase v[a,b] so that A
> obtains a majority-strength win over B, now the CDTT is just
> {a}, so that the odds that the CDTT,RC winner comes from the
> set {a,b} have increased from 50% to 100%.
>
> This leads me to believe that there are cases where you