[EM] Margins vs. Winning Votes

Dave Ketchum davek at clarityconnect.com
Tue Jul 26 13:41:47 PDT 2005


I think we should charge Paul with throwing mud.

Juho has created a couple examples packaged as basic tie elections, with 
one extra vote added in that gives the odd voter full control as to winner 
  under wv rules.

Paul notes - as a big deal - that by not starting with a tie, the results 
would be different.

Does not matter that such a count in a real election would smell rotten.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:54:03 +0300 Juho Laatu wrote:

> Hello Paul,
> 
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 01:42, Paul Kislanko wrote:
> 
>>  Juho Laatu wrote in part:
>>
>>> (P.S. Number of "1000 supporter parties" could be also higher
>>> than two,
>>> and number of candidates in each party could be higher than two, and
>>> the results/problems would stay the same.)
>>
>>
>> I'd be very careful with generalizations like this one. The
>> three-alternative case is qualitatively different from the two-alternative
>> case. The example itself depends upon their being an even number of voters
>> so the split can result in a tie. With the same 2000 voters and a third
>> candidate, you can't have a tie since 2000 is not 0 mod 3.
> 
> 
> Ok, I'll try to be more careful with my definitions. I'll give an 
> example to clarify what I was thinking. I the attached example one vote 
> seems to be able to pick any winner - in this case the last vote picks B.
> 
> 1000:  A>B>C>D
> 1000:  E>F>G
> 1000:  H>I
> 1000:  J
> 1:     B>F

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