[EM] electionmethods website is cancelled

MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 11 17:54:06 PST 2005


  I've asked Russ to either take down his website, or at least remove from 
it my articles, and anything there that has its origin in any suggestions or 
comments that I'd sent to Russ.

Over the years, Russ's website has been an ongoing embarrassment on EM, 
because Russ has often
  reworded my definitions in a way that is ambiguous or means something 
different from the wordings that I'd sent to him.

I've been getting more and more tired of hearing on EM about "my" ambiguous 
defrinitions on the electionmethods website.

Most of what was at electionmethods can be found at the following website:

   http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/vote/sing.html

  The Approval strategy articles there need some updating, but, with 
possibly a few changes, the rest is up to date. Of course I'll update 
whatever needs it.

  So I recommend http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/vote/sing.html as the 
replacement for the electionmethods website.

   But Russ's befuddled rewording of my definitions wasn't the final reason 
to ask him to cancel the website. It took a little more than that.

  In electoral reform we sometimes work with people with whom we don't agree 
politically, when we're all working for some common goal. Election reform 
for instance.

  Russ calls himself a "libertarian", but I doubt that many genuine 
libertarians would agree with that designation of himself. He's really more 
Republican than the Republicans, more Bush than Bush, and more violent in 
his intentions toward people in the smaller, weaker countries than Bush is.

But because I felt that electoral reform is worthwhile, I tried to avoid 
ethical and moral topics.. The problem is that Russ is also loud. He wasn't 
inclined to keep his beliefs to himself. Finally I decided that I'm working 
with voting systems because of principle, and principle doesn't call for not 
replying to someone like that. I've done my part by sending the articles and 
definitions, etc., and what someone else does or doesn't do with them after 
that isn't my concern. So I began letting Russ know where he was in error.

  Russ, it turns out, is someone whose only way to reply to someone who 
doesn't agree with him is by raging, ranting namecalling. Of course that 
sets him up for a few little comments that aren't entirely flattering 
either, and so I provided a few of those. That predictably ratched-up Russ's 
anger
   level all the more, and it finally today reacahed the point where I told 
him to either take down the website or remove from it my articles and 
anything else there that originated from anything that I'd sent to Russ.

  Well, it would be off-topic to post those discussions here, and of course 
it would be unethical to post private e-mail. But his  latest anger resulted 
from my reply to his claim that when we tax capital gains, we're taxing the 
investment income twice. Why is that? Because if we tax your money at      
20% before you invest it, , then you're only investing .8 times as much as 
you otherwise would. Therefore your profit is only 80% what it would have 
been if we hadn't taxed your money before you invested it. Therefore, your 
investment income has been "effectively" taxed at 20%. :-)

So then, if we tax capital gains, we're twice taxing your investment income, 
says Russ.

   I tried to explain his obvious fallacy to him, and that set off his worst 
anger, and that's when I told him to take the website down, because he'd 
become someone I didn't want to work with.
That aside from his garbled, befuddled and ambiguous wordings of my 
definitions.

   Russ's latest letter added that he was deeply offended by my lack of 
support for the men and women who are fighting for our freedom in Iraq.

Does anyone believe that those thousand-plus U.S. combat deaths, and many 
times more wounded, were necessary to protect our freedom. Are the Iraqis 
trying to take away our freedom?

Apparently to Russ and some others, "supporting the troops" means keeping 
them over there to be killed or shot-up, not letting them come home when 
their term is up.

Anyway, that was the last straw, that plus all the garbled, befuddled and 
vague rewordings of my definitions at Russ's website.

Mike Ossipoff

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