[EM] Approval vs ERIRV with AERLO

MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 4 17:09:05 PDT 2004


If you trade Approval for ERIRV with AERLO, you're trading FBC for SDSC. If 
the choice were only between Approval and ERIRV with AERLO, I'd probablly 
choose ERIRV with AERLO, unless that     od's FBC violation turned out to be 
frequent and flagrant.

This is in answer to the question about how ERIRV rartes with respect to 
other melthods.

Just tentatively, a merit ranking of     ods might start something like 
this:

1. Condorcet wv
2. ERBucklin(whole) with AERLO
3. ERBucklin(whole)
4. Bucklin without ER
5. Majority Choice Approval
6.. ERIRV(whole) with AERLO
7. ERIRV(fractional) with AERLO
8. Approval or CR
9. ERIRV(whole) without AERLO
10. ERIRV(fractional) without AERLO

[then probably lots of other     ods]

then Condorcet (margins) [ranked this low because it doesn't even meet WDSC]
then unmitigated IRV, the IRV proposed by IRV promotgers
then Plurality & Borda (difficult to choose between those two)

But, again, this is about merit. The popular public proposals are Condorcet, 
Approval, CR, unmitigated IRV, and maybe Borda, which would make for a 
shorter, simpler ranking:

1. Condorcet wv
2. Approval or CR
3. unmitigated IRV
4. Condorcet(margins)
5. Borda and Plurality


Polls have been suggested for     ods, and for criteria. I suggest that the 
next poll, when the presidential poll is completed, be about standards for 
voting systems. Then a poll for criteria to measure for the winning 
standard. Then for     ods that do well by the winning criteria.

James A.-- If you agree that Condorcet is the best rank     od, then there's 
no need to propose any other rank     od for public elections, since 
computer-counting is available for public elections, and so the quick 
handcount of Bucklin & ERIRV aren't needed.

And if you prefer ERIRV to Bucklin, why is that? LNH?

When I say "Bucklin", I mean ERBucklin(whole).


Mike Ossipoff

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