The "Turkey" problem (Re: [EM] 2-rank and N-rank Condorcet)

[Forest Simmons]

Thanks for reminding us of your original reason for proposing limits on
the resolution of the ballot ... not to make it easier for the voter but
to force the voter to consider the relative importance of the various
possible comparisons.

On Wed, 7 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote:

> Rob and Josh,
>
> Providing a number of ranks comparable to what would make people comfortable
> is a reasonable idea, but with 5 or 7 ranks I believe the Approval-style
> benefits would be lost.  I like Forest's idea of sqr(candidates) ranks.
>
> I think you should have fewer ranks than the number of candidates with
> a serious chance of winning.  That forces every voter to indicate at least
> one "serious" contest that is less important to them than the others.
> I think three or four ranks would usually be ideal.
>
> Kevin Venzke
> stepjak at yahoo.fr
>
>  --- josh at narins.net a écrit :
> > On Sun, May 04, 2003 at 03:07:33PM -0700, Rob Lanphier wrote:
> > > Very interesting.  I guess my criticism was based on not fully
> > > understanding N-rank Condorcet myself.  I've gone back and read the
> > > discussion, and I'm much more intrigued.
> > >
> > > Rather than having a formula to determine the number of ranks, my sense
> > > is that N should be chosen based on what people are used to.  I'd
> > > recommend N=5, if only because it lends itself to this familiar format:
> > >
> > >       Strongly                    Strongly
> > >       disapprove     Neutral       approve
> > > Joan   (1)     (2)      (3)     (4)     (5)
> > > Jane   (1)     (2)      (3)     (4)     (5)
> > > Jack   (1)     (2)      (3)     (4)     (5)
> >
> > The Social Sciences have repeatedly held that people most prefer 7.
> >
> > Agree strongly
> > Agree
> > Agree weakly
> > Neutral
> > Disagree weakly
> > Disagree
> > Disagree strongly
> >
> >
> > I read it again just recently, somewhere.
> >
>
>
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