[EM] Fwd: Is Condorcet The Turkey?

[Dave Ketchum]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Forest Simmons wrote:
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Dave Ketchum wrote:
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>>To me Condorcet is about as simple as it gets - list the candidates in
>>order, starting with your favorite and continuing until you care not which
>>of the remainder wins (which can only happen if none of those you do list
>>wins).  ...
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> Listing candidates in order is not that easy for most folks.  Just
> figuring out who to put first is a major effort, hence all of the TV
> campaigning to attract the undecided swing voters.  In countries where
> ranked ballots are used, most voters depend heavily on recommendations
> from unions, parties, or favorites.

Mentioning campaigning is a distraction - it does try to influence voters, 
but the current topic is how voters shall express their desires, once they 
have decided.
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> Which is easier to copy ... a ranked ballot or an approval ballot?

To vote for a single preferred candidate for Plurality, ranked, or 
Approval seems about equally simple, whether the candidate is chosen by 
the voter or copied from a cheat sheet.

I have trouble figuring out when a cheat sheet would have more than the 
one name it is promoting for a seat:
      Could happen for Condorcet, with a favorite who is not expected to 
win followed by a less desirable but stronger candidate.
      Would be a trifle easier for Approval, assuming it made sense to do.

We certainly agree that an independent voter could want to select more 
than one candidate:
      With Condorcet you quit after you have ranked as many as you are 
willing and able to - easy enough.
      With Approval the ballot marking is a bit easier, AFTER you have 
done the hard work of sorting out which candidates you wish to list.
> 
> Forest
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