[EM] Hello (Intro); PR, Condorcet and Approval, variants...
matt at tidalwave.net
Thu Feb 20 08:56:19 PST 2003
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Venzke Kevin <stepjak at yahoo.fr>
Reply-To: election-methods-list at eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:54:25 +0100 (CET)
>Yes, I can see that. But I didn't mean my concern in
>the context of the wv/margins dispute. I think people
>*would* rank unknown candidates, thinking of it as a
>kind of strategy. The candidates may not literally be
>"unknown," but there could be rather little known
>about even second tier candidates. As an example,
>perhaps Pat Buchanan could accidentally win. Most
>people know something about him, but I bet quite a few
>Gore supporters would rank Buchanan above Bush,
>thinking it a possible weapon against Bush, without
>any risk of electing the former.
I don't think we can safely make any such assumptions, and I think we should keep our contest examples apolitical and anonymous (candidate A, B).
>This requires a simultaneous approval and ranked
>ballot, right? Wouldn't it be a better system at
>least to find the Condorcet winner among candidates
>meeting a defined Approval threshold? My motivation
>for mixing Condorcet and Approval would be to protect
>against the former's possible flukes.
It requires a ranked ballot with a voter specified approval cutoff. How would a practical and non-arbitrary Approval threshold be pre-declared? Would it be set based on number of candidates? Number of voters? Neither?
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