[EM] Issues, Condorcet, and IRV (was: IRV vs. plurality)

[Dave Ketchum]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:31:02 -0400 I wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:51:57 -0400 Eric Gorr wrote:
> 
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>> At 10:33 AM +0200 8/13/03, Markus Schulze wrote:
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>>> Dear Eric,
>>>
>>> you wrote (12 Aug 2003):
>>>
>>>>  Furthermore, it is possible that for every election method an
>>>>  individual voter can make the result worse from their point of view.
>>>>  For Approval, it would be not selecting the cutoff at the right spot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When Approval Voting is being used, then it is not possible that a
>>> voter makes the result worse from his point of view.
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>> If a voter sets the cutoff in the wrong spot and approves and option 
>> they really did not want to see win, but then causes that option to 
>> win, they have made the result worse from their point of view.
>>
> The other side of that coin is setting the cutoff too high, above a 
> mediocre candidate, thus causing the mediocre candidate to lose to 
> someone this voter considers to be a true reject.
> 
This inspired a LOT of static.


The static refers to a previous discussion about participation, which Eric 
presumably was familiar with.

I was responding ONLY to the post I was reading.  For that, after Eric 
made his second comment about cutoff, mine was simply consistent in noting 
that an Approval voter can have set the cutoff too high, just as well as 
too low - in both cases the topic I see is whether the voter, after the 
votes get counted, could wish to have made a different decision as to cutoff.
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