[EM] Issues, Condorcet, and IRV (was: IRV vs. plurality)
Markus Schulze
markus.schulze at alumni.tu-berlin.de
Mon Aug 11 22:33:39 PDT 2003
Dear Eric,
Dave Ketchum wrote (9 Aug 2003):
> The example was presented by Markus Schulze, designed to
> give the results I described, when counting via BEAT PATH
> method. Clearly you must have used a different method to
> get your different results. I do not like declaring a tie,
> for we prefer declaring a winner without tossing a coin
> when at all possible.
You wrote (9 Aug 2003):
> Yes, as I clearly stated, I was using my site and obviously
> not using either Beatpath or Basic Condorcet - that left
> only one option. This example clearly shows the flaw in the
> Beatpath Winner method. However, in a better RP method, the
> flaw disappears and a tie is declared.
Here is a concrete example where Tideman's ranked pairs method
violates the Participation criterion in a very drastic manner.
Situation 1:
03 ACBED
12 ACEBD
07 BADCE
02 CEBDA
03 DABCE
09 DCBEA
01 DEBAC
05 EACBD
10 EBDAC
01 ECBDA
03 EDCAB
04 EDCBA
A:B=26:34
A:C=41:19
A:D=27:33
A:E=25:35
B:C=21:39
B:D=40:20
B:E=22:38
C:D=23:37
C:E=36:24
D:E=20:40
The ranked pairs winner is A.
Situation 2:
3 ADBCE voters are added.
A:B=29:34
A:C=44:19
A:D=30:33
A:E=28:35
B:C=24:39
B:D=40:23
B:E=25:38
C:D=23:40
C:E=39:24
D:E=23:40
Now, the ranked pairs winner is E.
Markus Schulze
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