[EM] 01/27/02 - Re: PR/STV Hybrid for multi-winner?
atarr at purdue.edu
Mon Jan 28 05:31:54 PST 2002
>Proportional Representation (PR) is not an election method in itself, it is
>a category of methods that give better proportionality than
>What you are talking about above is called `Closed Party List'.
Thanks for the clarification.
>You also wrote: "In order for a party to be an option for the ballot, it
>must provide a list of candidates equal to the number of seats available."
>Donald: You are being too harsh. Parties should be free to field as many
>candidates as they care to put on the ballot. No party would expect to
>elect all the seats.
True enough. It also occurs to me that a party could want to list *more*
candidates than the number of seats available, if they were worried about
voters burying candidates from their list that they don't like.
>Donald: Yes, it has been proposed before to allow people to vote for
>candidates and/or parties in any mix.
Although I didn't see any specific mention of this in the following list, I
assume that this would be one of the "design features" you mention for
STV. I hope it is not one of the ones you consider "undemocratic,
unproportional, even corrupt." Is there a place I can look at some of
these options? The CVD seems more interested in single-winner elections
and never even discusses fractional STV on their website, which is ironic
since single-winner elections are by far the worst time to use STV.
> Open-Party-List is a party list created by the voters - constructed
>from the candidates of the party that are running in the election - in
>order of high votes first as produced by the voters in the election. Having
>the list decided by the voters makes the party list more democratic than if
>the list is made up by the party.
I'm not sure I followed this description so let me make sure.Say there are
5 seats and 100 voters. There are three candidates from the Republicrat
party, A, B, and C. 23 people vote for B, 12 people vote for A, and 5
people vote for C. Since the party as a whole received 40 votes, they get
two seats. Since A and B were the two highest vote-getters within the
party, they are elected to those two seats. Is that correct?
Thanks for the response, it was a good read.
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