Is Winning Votes intuitive?

MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 25 22:46:00 PST 2002




In reply to:

>You're going to have to explain to me the scenario where some people try to 
>strategically truncate in SSD, only to be burned for it.
>

Blake said:

Isn't that the point of your example? The Bush voters, not
understanding SSD, strategically truncate and are thwarted as a result.
But if they had understood the method, they would have placed Nader
over Gore, or at least voted randomly between them. SSD only has a
benefit if voters do not understand it.

I reply:

Blake seems to be saying that SSD is better than RP(m) only if
the Bush voters don't understand that offensive order-reversal can
help them, because truncation won't succeed in stealing the election
from sincere CW Gore in SSD.

Blake is missing the fact that truncation is likely to happen much
more than offensive order-reversal. Truncation can be strategic or
lazy, for instance. In my previous message, I answered Blake's old
objection that lazy truncation diminishes the legitimacy of a sincere
CW. That was toward the end of my previous message.

If there isn't offensive order-reversal, then SSD, CSSD, BeatpathWinner,
RP(wv), and PC won't let truncation steal victory from a sincere CW
if a majority prefer that CW to the truncators' candidate and vote
sincerely.

In fact it can be said, with those methods, that if no one order-reverses, 
and if a majority prefer A to B and vote sincerely, and if
A is sincere CW, then B can't win.

No need to mention truncation. The above paragraph is a statement
that those methods meet SFC.

We could also say that with those methods, if no one order-reverses,
and if A is a member of the sincere Smith set, and B isn't, and
if a majority prefer A to B and vote sincerely, then B can't win.

Well I know that's true of SSD, CSSD, BeatpathWinner, & RP(wv). It
may or may not be true of PC.

(BeatpathWinner and CSSD are equivalent).

That's a way of saying that those methods meet GSFC.

These criteria show a big majority rule failing of RP(m), and
a consequent creation of need for defensive strategy, by the members
of that majority, to somehow prevent B voters from stealing the
election.

Mike Ossipoff





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