[EM] The Worse than Junk IRV method

DEMOREP1 at aol.com DEMOREP1 at aol.com
Sat Apr 27 12:54:46 PDT 2002


Donald who has become a flaming IRV fanatic (who just loves his ignorance of 
Condorcet) wrote in part-

Donald: So, you tried to explain Condorcet to her, did you now.
    In your explanation, did you tell her that the French election would
require 105 pairings?   Did you tell her that a voter would need to rank 14
candidates in order to have a vote in each of the 105 pairings?  Did you
tell her that 13 of her lower rankings would be used to help other
candidates while her first and most preferred preference was still a
contender, that is, lower choices could harm an earlier choice?
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   In an Irving election the French voters would only need to rank five or
six candidates in order for every vote to be still in the contest when the
candidates are down to the final two.  And none of the lower choices would
be able to harm an earlier choice.
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D- The mere fact of life that there may have been a Condorcet Winner among 
the 15 choices means nothing to Donald -- stuck in simple minded IRV land.

Since when is it *necessary* to rank ALL the candidates ???

How many of the 15 could get a YES majority ???

Was there a *compromise* Condorcet Winner among those choices who could get a 
YES majority ???

See my Hitler-Stalin-Washington example regarding the Worse than Junk IRV 
Method and its direct potential to elect Hitler/Stalin type clones (who will 
then claim some sort of majority *mandate* for their extremism).

Back to France -- a poll today says that Chirac has a 81-19 lead over Le Pen.

What a joke top 2 runoff election (and what is the extra cost to French 
taxpayers for such joke) ???

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