[EM] Approval Voting vs Instant Runoff Voting:

[David Catchpole]

How about-
It's effective by its standards only given perfect information. All
election methods are defensible by their standards given
perfect information.

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Bart Ingles wrote:

>
> Catchybacca wrote:
> >
> > Rolling would be Approval - an arbitrary system which is only effective
> > (like every other election method) given perfect information. Its only
>
> Are you saying that all methods are only effective given perfect
> information?
>
> I guess it depends what you mean by "effective".  In random voter
> simulations, it seems to do pretty well in terms of social utility.
> Certainly better than Irving.
>
>
> > advantage, that it involves no real insincerity, is a false one, because
> > it can only make that claim because Approval has no intuitive "sincere"
> > vote. Approval sucks. It does nothing to empower ordinary voters to ensure
> > their vote counts.
>
> No intuitive sincere vote?  Vote for everyone you like; don't vote for
> anyone you don't like.  The only time polling data really means anything
> is when you're on the fence about a particular candidate, in which case
> it's useful but not really necessary.
>
> As far as I can tell, Approval's intuitive strategy matches its
> mathematical strategy better than any other method I've seen.
>
> Bart Vader
>
>
> >
> > Yours sincerely, Darth Maul.
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Forest Simmons wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Ultra,
> > >
> > > I hope you never go over to the dark side.
> > >
> > > Forest
> > >
> > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Ultra Runner wrote:
> > >
> > > > Donald Davison wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Approval Voting does subsidize the lower candidates while Irving
> > > > > insists on treating all the candidates and all the parties and all the
> > > > > voters with equality. The word `all' includes everyone, not just the lowest
> > > > > candidates and their supporters.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess Irving is a lot like Rolling.  Rolling also insists on giving everyone an equal chance ... Rolling the Dice, that is.
> > > >
> > > > Ultra
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