Borda Count

Forest Simmons fsimmons at pcc.edu
Thu Feb 1 15:50:28 PST 2001


That's interesting. I wish we had more of these kinds of experiments with
real live people to help educate our intuition.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, LAYTON Craig wrote:

> Yes, the first one.
> 
> In relation to Borda, I remember an experiment we did in 1st year political
> science, where all the students voted on the same thing (I think it was
> chocolate bars).  We used a number of voting systems, and had to vote
> sincerely and consistently across all the systems. The voting systems were;
> first past the post, IRV, approval, borda and a rating system (out of 100).
> The voting pattern was really interesting (there were two dominant factions,
> one larger but more ambivalent, and the other smaller and more committed to
> their candidate, and the members of a faction voted almost exactly the same
> way, without prior communication on how to vote), but, anyway, all the
> systems produced nearly the same result, except for borda, which produced a
> wildly different result (out of six candidates, the candidate who won the
> borda count came third in the rating system, and did even worse in some of
> the others).
> 
> I thought it was quite interesting.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Simmons [mailto:fsimmons at pcc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2001 14:58
> To: election-methods-list at eskimo.com
> Subject: Re:Borda Count
> 
> Suppose you have 16 candidates to rank.  You know how each of them stands
> on the four issues that you consider vital.  No two have the same profile
> on these issues, so if we represent "agrees with you" and "disagrees with
> you" by the letters a and d respectively, the 16 candidates can be
> identified by their profiles:  aaaa, aaad, aada, aadd, adaa, adad, adda,
> addd, daaa, daad, dada, dadd, ddaa, ddad, ddda, dddd
> 
> In an informal non-binding poll you are asked to rate them on a scale of
> zero to 100%, so naturally you rate them in proportion to the number of
> issues on which they agree with you (assuming all of the issues are
> equally important to you).
> 
> aaaa gets 100%
> addd, dadd, ddad, ddda get identical ratings of 75%
> aadd, adad, adda, daad, dada, ddaa get identical ratings of 50%
> daaa, adaa, aada, aaad  get identiacl ratings of 25%
> dddd gets 0% .
> 
> Next, in another informal non-binding poll you are asked to rank the
> candidates.
> 
> Since you cannot distinguish all of them on the issues, you use looks and
> personality to break up the groups with identical ratings:
> 
> aaaa > aaad > aada > ... > dddd
> 
> The second pollster immediately converts your rankings to a rating via the
> Borda Count with  rates between 0/15 and 15/15.
> 
> Which would you consider to be a more accurate representation of your
> estimation of the candidates' abilities to represent your viewpoint in
> the legislature? 
> 
> Forest
> 
> 



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