[EM] Fixing IRV
Richard Moore
rmoore4 at home.com
Thu Aug 9 21:42:54 PDT 2001
Roy wrote:
> a similar situation arises in all Smith set results. I don't see an
> opportunity for non-monotonicity in this example; I would like to see
> an example that demonstrates it. Perhaps a situation with inner and
> outer Smith sets?
The best bet is to find a case where swapping the rankings
of two candidates on one ballot changes the order of
elimination in a key way. If
(1) X is originally eliminated at some stage, and Y
subsequently wins, and
(2) swapping Y and Z on some ballot that originally has Y
ranked lower than Z causes Z to be eliminated at that stage
instead of X, and
(3) X's continued presence after that stage causes Y to lose
instead of win,
then you have your example.
(I would think that a proof of Riker's theorem -- if that's
the correct name -- would involve showing that such an
example exists for every "elimination method". Obviously
such a proof wouldn't apply to methods that eliminate
candidates after, or at the same time as, the winner is
determined.)
> Is anybody (besides me) interested in pursuing this method further?
> It's not that it's a technically better method than any other
> Condorcet method; it just offers a more pursuasive argument to IRV
> advocates, because it's better than IRV by their own standard
> (majority rule).
Many people here are pessimistic about getting the IRV
people to accept any variations, even those variations that
bring in a majoritarian standard. Such methods have been
suggested before. Nevertheless, it might be worth
investigating its other properties, such as strategic
criteria compliance.
Richard
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