An IRVing response
DEMOREP1 at aol.com
DEMOREP1 at aol.com
Fri Aug 3 11:54:26 PDT 2001
douggreene at earthlink.net, a possible newbie on this list, wrote --
IRV is not perfect. But I will argue that at its worst, it is no worse than
our current plurality system, and at its best, it is a great improvement.
In particular, I agree that IRV can have a certain kind of plurality-like
affect in regards to eliminating the bottom candidate, when Condorcet might
actually keep such a candidate in. However, in a country that currently
accepts plurailty and a President who got less than 50% of the votes cast, I
doubt that's really a big problem.
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D- IRV is a little less than perfect. It is ultra-dangerous.
The standard Hitler-Stalin-Washington example
34 HWS
33 SWH
16 WHS
16 WSH
99
With IRV, Washington loses.
Hitler wins a mighty 50-49 majority and claims a mandate for his agenda.
Civil War ???
Washington just happens to beat Hitler 65 - 34 and just happens to beat
Stalin 66 - 33.
How often will 2 extremists be at the top with 3 candidates remaining if IRV
is being used ???
At least plurality promotes somewhat mush headed middle folks (where
gerrymanders are not involved).
As usual (and for the benefit of newbies) I note there are at least 3 data
tables involved in elections ----
YES/NO (absolute)
Head to Head (Condorcet's contribution to election theory) (relative)
Place votes (votes for 1st, 2nd, etc.) (relative)
IRV uses only part of a place votes table.
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