[EM] FW: Methods of elimination in quota preferential STV

[MIKE OSSIPOFF]

Craig Layton wrote:

This is part of the problem: the disproportionate power of geography.  If 5
million people in Florida have a particular point of view they have a lot of
power (and even more if they get to run their own country because of it),
but if the same 5 million people are spread across a wide geographical area,
they have no power at all.

I reply:

But at least the big region doesn't have power over people who
choose a different region to live in. Everyone has more power to make things 
they way they'd like them in their own nation.

Craig L. continues:

As a general rule, the more parocial national
governments are (and your little nation-states partitioned on the basis of
common points of view are likely to be the most parochial of all) the less
tolerant they are of minorities, and the more likely they are to descend
into despotic majoritarianism.

I reply:

Well, yes, they'd say "Love it or leave it!", and mean it. But that's
the whole idea of the partition. People voting with their feet.

Somehow, the land holdings of the nations should be adjusted for
migration within the former U.S. When someone leaves a nation, they
take some of its land with them. Honest censuses would be a problem,
and so the migrations would be recorded when they take place.
Immigration from outside the former U.S., and population changes due
to different average family-size wouldn't affect land holdings.

Are there regions of this country that would make us uncomfortable
if they were nations? Maybe, but remember that their repressed people
could leave, and take some of the land area with them. (Maybe provisions
like that would be part of an initial treaty among the nations:
Anyone has the right to leave any nation, and land holdings are
adjusted for migrations).

Now, who should get the Mohave and who should get California's coast,
etc.? It seems fair for each climate region to be divided up, so
that each nation gets a fair piece of good climates & harsh climates.
The nations wouldn't be contiguous.

Mike Ossipoff



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