First Choice Criterion
Michael A. Schoenfield
maschoen at execpc.com
Sun Nov 8 14:50:14 PST 1998
I want to express an apology to the members of this listserv. I have a few
buttons and welfare and what the system and reforms are doing to good people
happens to be a big button for me. As a professional campaign consultant I
know better than to get into a discussion regarding substantive issues.
Perhaps after having to listen to arguments for the last nine months has
finally gotten to me, and I reacted (something that I was not allowed to do
during the campaign). Somehow, I didn't listen to my own best advice.
Michael A. Schoenfield & Associates, Ltd.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Ositoff <ntk at netcom.com>
To: <election-methods-list at eskimo.com>
Cc: <ntk at netcom.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 1998 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: First Choice Criterion
>> What makes you think that slavery is not active at this time! The new
>> welfare rules and laws have the intention to force women to take
>> jobs (slavery) and to place their children in day-care. Now, a true
>> reform program would stress education so that these women could take on
>> well-paying jobs. But the answer to this is no, the business community
>> cannot find enough people for low-paying and/or disagreeable jobs, so
>> will force low skill women into these jobs. Where I come from, this is
>> called slavery.
>> Michael S.
>I'm not the list owner, so I'm just speaking as one participant
>to another: The problems that you speak of, and many others,
>related & unrelated, are, ultimately at least, issues of government.
>Pretty much everything major that happens around us, including
>the survival or non-survival of the natural environment, depends
>on social decisions made by government. Sometimes by initiatives,
>more often by elected officials. How we choose those officials,
>or how we'd make multi-alternative choices in direct democracy
>(if we had DD), is therefore something that matters. We're on
>this list because we agree that how public choices are made,
>at the voting level, is the basis of the mechanism of how those
>problems happen or don't happen.
>That's why we're here to discuss voting systems. Not all the
>particular social problems & social mistakes. It's been
>pointed out by Noam Chomsky & others that the public has
>repeatedly shown itself to be more progressive than its
>leaders. It matters how we choose them. Join our discussion
>of how to imporove the way we choose them.
>> Michael Schoenfield
>> Michael A. Schoenfield & Associates, Ltd.
>> 2637 Mason Street
>> Madison, WI 53705-3709
>> (608) 238-6121 Voice
>> (608) 233-2507 Fax
>> maschoen at execpc.com E-Mail
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Catchpole <s349436 at student.uq.edu.au>
>> To: <election-methods-list at eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: First Choice Criterion
>> >On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Daniel Davis wrote:
>> >> Well Corny, if you want to be ultra-meta-super-idealistic, why
>> representatives? Time for some greek city-state
>> >> democracy.
>> >Yeah, I think slavery should come back in fashion, don't you guys?
>> >(P.S. This is sarcasm... honestly!)
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