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DEMOREP1 at aol.com
DEMOREP1 at aol.com
Mon Apr 23 16:28:27 PDT 2001
Mr. Cretney wrote in part-
I can already imagine Demorep tapping away about how changing votes is
election fraud, so I'll just say this.
D- I'll let the election law in one U.S.A. State speak for itself (building
on the experience of about 800 years of Anglo- American election law). Note
932 (b) especially. There are about 20- 50 more specific felony sections and
many dozens of general and specific misdemeanors in the election law. Every
government has similar election laws about basic election crimes.
Any addition, removal, alteration of ballots and willful miscounting should,
if anything, have a much higher punishment -- such as life in jail --- since
it is *democratic* elections which keep down the machinations of monarchy/
oligarchy which has devastated various countries at various times (World
Wars, civil wars, etc.).
MICHIGAN ELECTION LAW (EXCERPT)
Act 116 of 1954
168.932 Prohibited conduct; violation as felony. [M.S.A. 6.1932 ]
Sec. 932. A person who violates 1 or more of the following subdivisions
is guilty of a felony: (a) A person shall not attempt, by means of
bribery, menace, or other corrupt means or device, either directly or
indirectly, to influence an elector in giving his or her vote, or to
deter the elector from, or interrupt the elector in giving his or her
vote at any election held in this state.
(b) A person not duly authorized by law shall not, during the progress
of any election or after the closing of the polls and before the final
results of the election have been ascertained, break open or violate the
seals or locks of any ballot box or voting machine used or in use at
that election. A person shall not willfully damage or destroy any ballot
box or voting machine. A person shall not obtain undue possession of
that ballot box or voting machine. A person shall not conceal, withhold,
or destroy a ballot box or voting machine, or fraudulently or forcibly
add to or diminish the number of ballots legally deposited in the box or
the totals on the voting machine. A person shall not aid or abet in any
act prohibited by this subdivision.
(c) An inspector of election, clerk, or other officer or person having
custody of any record, election list of voters, affidavit, return,
statement of votes, certificates, poll book, or of any paper, document,
or vote of any description, which pursuant to this act is directed to be
made, filed, or preserved, shall not willfully destroy, mutilate,
deface, falsify, or fraudulently remove or secrete any or all of those
items, in whole or in part, or fraudulently make any entry, erasure, or
alteration on any or all of those items, or permit any other person to
(d) A person shall neither disclose to any other person the name of any
candidate voted for by any elector, the contents of whose ballots were
seen by the person, nor in any manner obstruct or attempt to obstruct
any elector in the exercise of his or her duties as an elector under
(e) A person who is not involved in the counting of ballots as provided
by law and who has possession of an absent voter ballot mailed or
delivered to another person shall not do any of the following: (i) Open
the envelope containing the ballot.
(ii) Make any marking on the ballot.
(iii) Alter the ballot in any way.
(iv) Substitute another ballot for the absent voter ballot that the
(f) A person other than an absent voter; a person whose job it is to
handle mail before, during, or after being transported by a public
postal service, express mail service, parcel post service, or common
carrier, but only during the normal course of his or her employment; a
clerk or assistant of the clerk; a member of the immediate family of the
absent voter including father-in-law, mother-in-law, brother-in-law,
sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, grandparent, or grandchild;
or a person residing in the absent voter's household shall not do any of
the following: (i) Possess an absent voter ballot mailed or delivered to
another person, regardless of whether the ballot has been voted.
(ii) Return, solicit to return, or agree to return an absent voter
ballot to the clerk of a city, township, village, or school district.
(g) A person who assists an absent voter who is disabled or otherwise
unable to mark the ballot shall only render his or her assistance by
showing the absent voter how to vote the ballot as the absent voter
desires or by marking the ballot as directed by the absent voter. A
person who assists an absent voter who is disabled or otherwise unable
to mark the ballot shall not suggest or in any manner attempt to
influence the absent voter on how he or she should vote or allow any
other person to do so.
(h) A person present while an absent voter is voting an absent voter
ballot shall not suggest or in any manner attempt to influence the
absent voter on how he or she should vote.
(i) A person shall not plan or organize a meeting at which absent voter
ballots are to be voted.
History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955 ;--Am. 1957, Act 220, Eff.
Sept. 27, 1957 ;--Am. 1982, Act 201, Imd. Eff. July 1, 1982 ;--Am. 1995,
Act 261, Eff. Mar. 28, 1996 .
Popular Name: Election Code
168.935 Felony; penalty. [M.S.A. 6.1935 ]
Sec. 935. Any person found guilty of a felony under the provisions of
this act shall, unless herein otherwise provided, be punished by a fine
not exceeding $1,000.00, or by imprisonment in the state prison for a
term not exceeding 5 years, or by both such fine and imprisonment in the
discretion of the court.
History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955 .
Popular Name: Election Code
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