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RBJ’s thoughts as expressed here pretty much agree with my own. I don’t know that I want to die on this hill, but I don’t want to take it lying down either .
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 18, 2024, at 12:00 PM, robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">User:Rbj has been banned from editing Wikipedia since 2007. I do edit anonymously, but I have to be very careful to not identify who I really am, if I want my edits to stick at all.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I am not going to get in an edit war with Limey. Someone else should and I might support them an an anonymous IP.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Political disputes often are determined by semantics and how issues are framed I know about the origin of the semantic "RCV" in SF when the city clerk did not want to use "IRV". But the term RCV means broader than IRV and FairVote converted
their use of IRV to RCV ca. 2014 when "IRV" lost cachet after several repeals. It's dishonest.</div>
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<div dir="auto">FairVote has always dishonestly conflated the Hare method with ranked choice voting, equating the two notions and insisting that there is n o other way to tally ranked ballots. It's a lie, and appropriating "Ranked-Choice Voting" label for
only their specific method is dishonest.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Along with other falsehoods repeated by FairVote and other organizations such as RCVRC. Like the winner of RCV must receive more than 50% of "the vote". Or that RCV eliminates the spoiler effect. Or that your second-choice vote is counted
if your first-choice is defeated. Or that using RCV does not affect the time required to tally the results and determine the winner.</div>
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<div dir="auto">This appropriation of the general label "RCV" for their specific method is another dishonest action of these truly partisan organizations that are only interested in selling a product and are apparently unable to be honest about the product
they are selling.</div>
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<div dir="auto">- robert</div>
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<div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Rob Lanphier<roblan@gmail.com></roblan@gmail.com></div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Fri, Oct 18, 2024 00:04</div>
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<div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>[EM] "Instant-runoff voting" article renamed to "Ranked-choice voting" on English Wikipedia</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi folks,<br>
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<div>Those of us who pay attention to voting related articles on Wikipedia recently noticed this:</div>
<div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked%E2%80%90choice_voting" originalsrc="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked%E2%80%90choice_voting" shash="feUfmHrTLVacruWT8am3vmScyCkU2YF53DtmePB0mJUgd4qF/U5m/LFPGNgUQbaTxV0YiCeib3GMuaB+uQB4mEUsF36Ejfg83u7TEjcOMJlNFBdd9vcsRBMG0OU63cIHfV70Yqa60xkRWCgmJ2Ue21CXuXhJeGo2neGXMWRRzmo=">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting</a><br>
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<div>It would seem that Closed Limelike Curves made an executive decision to rename the "Instant-runoff voting" article to "Ranked-choice voting". As I've said in at least one conversation: this isn't a hill that I'm going to die on. That said, based on a
recent conversation I'm thinking of, there's at least one person that IS willing to die on the hill.</div>
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<div>Thoughts?</div>
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<div>Rob</div>
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