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<div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" font-size:9pt;"=""><i>Powered by Cricket Wireless</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Closed Limelike Curves<closed.limelike.curves@gmail.com></closed.limelike.curves@gmail.com></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Mon, Aug 26, 2024 11:44</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>robert bristow-johnson;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:election-methods@lists.electorama.com">election-methods@lists.electorama.com</a>;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [EM] The critical importance of Precinct Summability.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The two-way com
munication is not transparent and skeptics (or conspiracy nuts) will claim that the two-way communication is not secure.</blockquote>> It doesn't really matter whether it's secure or not. All that matters is whether it's possible to verify whether this insecurity affected the result, based only on the precinct results. RCV is round-by-round verifiable: in each round,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ONLY if tallies for all operationally distinguishable ballot permutations are posted at each polling place after closing on the evening of the election.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That's 9 tallies for 3 candidates. 40 tallies for 4 candidates. 205 tallies for 5 candidates.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"Combined Write-in" is one of those candidates.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The closed-form formula is</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"># of tallies = floor( (e-1) C! - 1)</div><div dir=
"auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">where C is the number of candidates.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course with most Condorcet, it's C(C-1).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Big difference in the length of paper tape.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> you can post the vote totals for that round,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Only from the central tabulation location. By then the conspiracy theorists would say the numbers are contaminated.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> and verify the outcome was correctly calculated by adding up all the precinct results.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Again, you need 2 meters of paper tape if there are 5 candidates.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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