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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I don't think I'd agree that the primary goal is to make voters not regret voting honestly. You might as well have random ballot in that case. I think the primary goal is to get the "best" winner for however one might define best. Making a method not manipulable to strategy can be one way to go about achieving that.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Toby</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 16:05:37 BST, Filip Ejlak <tersander@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061"><div><div><div class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061gmail_quote"><div id="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqtfd57156" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqt1222217266"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061gmail_attr">śr., 15 maj 2024, 10:47 użytkownik Michael Ossipoff <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:email9648742@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">email9648742@gmail.com</a>> napisał:<br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061gmail_quote"><div id="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqtfd81542" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqt1222217266"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><div class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061gmail_quote"><div id="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqtfd07030" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqt1222217266"><div>Yes, then, as you suggest, “manipulability” doesn’t tell us anything of interest. I agree.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Then how much do those manipulability numbers mean, in regards to the strategic merit of the methods. Nothing?</div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I can't agree at all. IMO the primary goal of a good voting method is to make voters not regret voting honestly. While it's useful to be able to use a defensive strategy after analysing expected poll outcomes, frontrunners etc., the best voting method would be the one that does not create the need to take these things into the account at all.</div><div>Chances of being able to vote honestly, with no strategic burden to bear. That's what the manipulability numbers are about.</div></div><div id="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqtfd71651" class="ydp6b9f3baeyiv2609237061yqt1222217266">
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