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It can be difficult to be sure what is "propose-able" in the US
and what isn't (especially from outside <br>
of it.) Sometimes relatively complicated things seem to catch on
while no-one seems to be excited<br>
about Approval.<br>
<br>
I am not sure if Margins Sorted Approval (specified) is
"unproposably complex" or not. <br>
<br>
I suspect Smith//DAC might be, but I don't know.<br>
<br>
My three favourites with a big emphasis on simplicity and general
"bang-for-buck" are:<br>
<br>
Smith//Approval (Ranking)<br>
<br>
Hare (unrestricted and uncompelled strict ranking)<br>
<br>
Approval<br>
<br>
And my least preferred by those criteria include:<br>
<br>
STAR<br>
<br>
Approval with top-two manual Runoff<br>
<br>
Majority Judgement (and other Median Ratings methods)<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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><i> Right!! That’s something I wanted to say. I’m removing Schulze from the
</i>><i> upper part of my ranking for that reason, & replacing it with
</i>><i> Smith//Approval(implicit).
</i>><i>
</i>><i> How about we say to rank in order of overall merit for public
</i>><i> proposal…which includes proposability?
</i>><i>
</i>><i> Then the unproposably complex methods could be left unranked or ranked
</i>><i> near bottom.
</i>><i>
</i>><i> Or take it a step further & trim the candidate-set to only include
</i>><i> proposable methods? But might it be quicker to just let that be a voting
</i>><i> judgment, instead of having to do that evaluation as a separate
</i>><i> preliminary collective evaluation, which would delay the voting?
</i>
I would prefer that the merit question for the poll stays the same:
"which voting methods do you prefer to which others?", i.e. ranking them
in preference.
Then it would be up to the individual voter to consider what aspects of
the method are most important; and anyone who wants to use it to guide
reform can just screen away the unproposable methods.
After all, we have to do that anyway, because it's pretty much
impossible to collapse disparate concerns into a single order without
making some assumptions about which concerns are most important. Would I
recommend Benham ahead of Schulze? Well, that depends on whether there's
tons of strategy in the place in question and whether they (and I) can
accept the nonmonotonicity.
In the absence of any such situational information, any order will be
imperfect. In any case, if the poll's output ranking ends up being like
Extrinsic Borda-Weighted Landau Intersection > Iterative Refinement
Keener + Sinkhorn (mean) > Schulze > RP > Approval > IRV,
then it's a simple matter for reformers to just discard everything above
Schulze (or RP) for a public proposal. In practice, I doubt the exotic
methods will rank that high anyway.
-km</pre>
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