<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">>> But, while keeping my membership, I won’t be visiting this forum, where the loud frequent posers can hardly be considered worth listening to. I’ll look-up how to turn off posting-announcements.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>What a shame.</div><div>On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:14 PM Michael Ossipoff <<a href="mailto:email9648742@gmail.com" target="_blank">email9648742@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 07:10 Michael Garman <<a href="mailto:michael.garman@rankthevote.us" target="_blank">michael.garman@rankthevote.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">That’s simply not true. It’s a matter of what you choose to value, and it’s not your place to tell other people what they ought to value. </div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto">As Huxley said, thank you for proving that there’s no such thing as in-utterable nonsense.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I asked EM a question. The participation suggested willingness to answer it. I proposed a poll on a particular question. They have a freedom-of-speech right to refuse to answer my question & make a different poll with a different topic.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What anyone values is their business, but yes, I can tell them that if they change the topic & purpose of the poll, then they cancel the poll that this was.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">They “ought to” do whatever they want, including canceling the poll that people presumably weren’t participating in, if they so choose.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Michael G. had already demonstrated a lot about himself with his hilariously contorted effort to defend FairVote’s well-known & widely recognized falsehoods.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Alright :-) I’ve run out of patience. This waste of time could go on forever. When I proposed this (or is it now “that”?) poll, I had no idea how hard it was going to be to get an answer to the poll’s question, or for (at least the loudest) people here to make any progress on a project.</div><div dir="auto">I was hoping for an answer before the November election, hbut that now looks unlikely.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Optimistically assuming that it might be possible, it would take much too long…be much too time-consuming.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Change the poll to whatever you want, or maybe don’t d.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don’t have time for this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The other thing is that it’s now evident that if I, when quoting the poll’s results (if we pretend that there would be any before November), claimed that the current EM members (collectively) are people whose recommendations are valuable & should be listened-to, then I’d be a liar.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Joe was right: This has been a pure farce.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Go for it, I guess…or not.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">…& no, I’m not quitting EM, but only because its sometimes read by people who write papers in academic journals, where a few of my proposals here have been announced.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">… making it a good place to post proposals. I…just in case I again post a proposal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But, while keeping my membership, I won’t be visiting this forum, where the loud frequent posers can hardly be considered worth listening to. I’ll look-up how to turn off posting-announcements.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Your conceit is as astonishing as your decision to put a period at the end of your signature is confusing. <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;color:rgb(34,34,34)"></p></div></div></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 4:08 PM Richard Lung <<a href="mailto:voting@ukscientists.com" target="_blank">voting@ukscientists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Pleased don't tell me what I am implyng by the word "truth". There is <br>
such a thing as right and wrong, even in voting methods.<br>
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Richard Lung.<br>
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