<div dir="auto">Yes, the electoral-reform was electing Socialists & excluded minorities.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But, in current years, Republicans can’t not notice that when a CW is eliminated, it makes them regret that they didn’t bury their favorite under their compromise. Hence their desire to ban RCV.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:42 Michael Garman <<a href="mailto:michael.garman@rankthevote.us">michael.garman@rankthevote.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Okay, I’ll concede that I was thinking about the last 30 years or so — what one might call the “FairVote era” but as I didn’t specify I will stand corrected. By and large, those historical repeals were motivated by racism and the Red Scare — opponents feared that STV (and it was STV, not IRV, in most cases) would give Black people and communists political power. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’d forgotten about Aspen. Fair enough. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Pierce County repealed RCV because the statewide switch to top-two primaries rendered ranked choice general elections obsolete. </div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 3:53 AM Michael Ossipoff <<a href="mailto:email9648742@gmail.com" target="_blank">email9648742@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">
<div>Garman says:</div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">"And Burlington undid their repeal. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No other jurisdiction in the US has voted to repeal RCV."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">
<h2 style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:bold"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Implementations rejected</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Between 1912 and 1930, limited forms of ranked-choice voting (typically with
only two rankings<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:0-5" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[5]</sup></a>)
were implemented and subsequently repealed in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida" title="Florida" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Florida</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana" title="Indiana" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Indiana</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland" title="Maryland" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Maryland</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota" title="Minnesota" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Minnesota</a>,
and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin" title="Wisconsin" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Wisconsin</a>.
In the 1970s, it was implemented and repealed in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor,_Michigan" title="Ann Arbor, Michigan" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Ann Arbor, Michigan</a> following the election of
the city’s first Black mayor in an RCV election.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:1-254" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[254]</sup></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-255" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[255]</sup></a>
More recently, it was adopted and repealed in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_County,_Washington" title="Pierce County, Washington" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Pierce County, Washington</a> (2006–2009);<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:2-6" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[6]</sup></a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington,_Vermont" title="Burlington, Vermont" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Burlington, Vermont</a> (2005–2010);<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:3-7" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[7]</sup></a>
and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen,_Colorado" title="Aspen, Colorado" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank">Aspen, Colorado</a> (2007–2010).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:4-8" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[8]</sup></a>
It has since been reinstated in Burlington, and Ann Arbor residents voted to
reinstate it as well, with that use likely needing approval from Michigan’s
state legislature.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-256" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[256]</sup></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-257" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><sup style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">[257]</sup></a></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Next, Mr. Garman, I'll contact the person who mentioned the conference in which Rob Richie or FairVote promised to stop making the false-claim...which he or they soon resumed making.</p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> I'll post more details of the incident as soon as I get them.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p>
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</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:44 PM Michael Garman <<a href="mailto:michael.garman@rankthevote.us" target="_blank">michael.garman@rankthevote.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">And Burlington undid their repeal. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No other jurisdiction in the US has voted to repeal RCV. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:43 PM Michael Ossipoff <<a href="mailto:email9648742@gmail.com" target="_blank">email9648742@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div>[Quote]</div><div>
<div><div></div><div id="m_7466106023909345452m_-2997752166328619505m_2089905702161701523m_4176395512855373499gmail-:ym"></div><div id="m_7466106023909345452m_-2997752166328619505m_2089905702161701523m_4176395512855373499gmail-:19n"><div id="m_7466106023909345452m_-2997752166328619505m_2089905702161701523m_4176395512855373499gmail-:yk"><div dir="auto">Republicans were trying to ban RCV before the Alaska election. <br></div><div>[/Quote]</div><div><br></div><div>Same thing happened in Burlington. CW eliminated & transfers went away from Rep;publican & toward Progressive.</div><div><br></div><div>...& there hasn't just been one repeal. I've been told that there have been a fair number of repeals of RCV. When people expect RCV to act like Condorcet, & it doesn't, RCV then has repeal as a built-in feature.<br></div></div></div></div>
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