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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">For some reason, half of my reply didn’t
post, & so I’ll try again now:<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chris Behnam said:<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">[quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">And two, with this model there can be no
controversy as to who should win. Every method has no choice other than to<br>
elect the candidate with the most votes.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">[/quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Yes, that’s the definition of Vote-For-1
(VF1).<span> </span>The thing is, however, that some
of us don’t like VF1.<br>
…<br>
[quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think one mistake that Blake Cretney made
quite a while ago (stemming from the mind-set I described at the beginning)<br>
was to classify truncation as a variety of Burial strategy.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">[/quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Then Blake Cretney was mistaken.<span> </span>Truncation can be strategic, or it can be
lazy, or hurried, or due to the balloting only allowing a few rank-positions.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…&, if it’s strategic, it can be
offensive or defensive strategy. <span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">With wv methods, CW,Implicit-Approval, or
MDDA, I’d always employ defensive-truncation, never ranking anyone whom I
wouldn’t approve if the election were by Approval.<span> </span>…& would advise others to do the same.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<br>
<a name="m_2099524129484636097_burying"></a>[quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The voting method should be very happy to
assume that presumed (or imaginary) strict "preferences" that the
voter chooses not to<br>
express on the ballot for whatever reason (barring some over-strong truncation
or compromise incentives) simply don't exist.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">[/quote]<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Assuming things isn’t the Condorcet’s job. It’s
to count all of everyone’s pairwise preferences, & elect the candidate
whose election they imply.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">i.e. to elect the “sincere CW” if there is
one.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">That doesn’t say anything about there being
an exception in the case where there’s a “sincere CW”, but no “voted CW” due to
offensive-strategy.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Perhaps didn’t know it, but critics &
opponents of Condorcet reject it because offensive strategy can defeat a “sincere
CW”, &, for some unfathomable reason, they don’t like that.<br>
…<br>
If that happens, then the method is failing to fulfill its promise to the
voters other than the offensive-strategizers. Condorcet’s purpose is being
defeated.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">MinMax(wv), CW,Implicit-Approval,<span> </span>& MDDA don’t let truncation of the CW
prevent hir election<span> </span>(unless maybe there’s
humungous indifference, in which case it doesn’t matter a whole lot).<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Those methods deter burial by electing the “Bus”
(the candidate under whom the CW is buried), when the CW’s voters employ
defensive strategy.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">i.e. Don’t rank anyone whom you wouldn’t vote
for in Approval, if you want to deter burial of the CW to elect someone whom
you wouldn’t vote for in Approval.<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">…<span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The autodeterrent methods (when the best ones
have been chosen) will deter offensive strategy by electing the Bus with
greater probability than the buriers’ favorite.<span>
</span>…without anyone having to use any defensive-strategy.<span></span></span></p>
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