<div dir="auto">If you want optimal strategy, vote for your Plurality compromise and everybody you like better. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So Approval improves the result when people apply the "everybody you like better" clause, and leaves it no worse (nor better) until they get more familiar with the method.<div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 4:23 PM Michael Garman <<a href="mailto:michael.garman@rankthevote.us">michael.garman@rankthevote.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Colin,</div><div><br></div>Your concern about approval voting is corroborated, at least anecdotally, by evidence from Fargo, ND -- the only US jurisdiction to use approval in general elections. In 2022, <a href="https://citizendata.com/tracking-voter-support-for-electoral-reforms/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">60%</a> of voters reported voting for just one candidate in the field of seven. At least two candidates (at least according to quotes in an <a href="https://democracysos.substack.com/p/what-fargo-reveals-about-approval" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">article </a>from Rob Ritchie) encouraged their supporters to bullet vote for them.<div><br></div><div>MJG</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 4:52 PM Colin Champion <<a href="mailto:colin.champion@routemaster.app" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">colin.champion@routemaster.app</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I’m not persuaded of
approval voting. My guess is that voters will bullet-vote for the
candidate they like best among those they know about; candidates
will encourage bullet voting on their own behalf; pundits will
have nothing better to say, and voters will have no motive to
award more than the minimum number of approvals. <br>
A danger of quadratic and entropic measures is that they don't
impose the constraint that the number of survivors has to be small
enough to make ranked voting effective on the second round. <br>
CJC<br>
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<div>On 25/08/2023 15:05, Kristofer
Munsterhjelm wrote:<br>
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2023-08-25 01:50, Forest Simmons wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I agree with Kristofer that Approval is
plenty good for the narrowing down phase.
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Your favorite pundits and candidates will definitely make known
their recommendations. Trust your own judgment and gut, as you
collate and cull out their llists of recommendations.
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If there are going to be only six finalists, that doesn't mean
you can only approve six or that you have to approve more than
one.
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My rule is to approve my favorite as well as everybody else that
I like almost as much.
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Here's an idea for deciding on n, the number of finalists after
the approval ballots have been tallied:
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For this purpose, temporarily count the ballots fractionally,
and let f(X) be the fraction of the total that X gets in this
tally ... so that the f(X) values sum to unity.
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The value of n should be the reciprocal of the sum of the
squares of the f(X) vslues... the standard formula for the
minimum number of seats that would be acceptable for
proportional representation of a diverse population.
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Another option is to use the exponential of the Shannon entropy:
<a href="https://electowiki.org/wiki/Effective_number_of_parties#Entropy_measure" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://electowiki.org/wiki/Effective_number_of_parties#Entropy_measure</a>
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-km
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