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    <p>There's been a dramatically democratically improved IRV since
      about 1850, it's called the Hare system ("Andrae system", in
      Scandinava).</p>
    <p>There's been a decisively improved Borda method since 1880. It's
      called the Gregory method. It is why statisticians prefer
      weighting in arithmetic proportion (Gregory method) to weighting
      in arithmetic progression (Borda method). They only use the latter
      when they have to assume the magnitudes of intervals in their
      tabulations of data collection.<br>
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    <p>Personally, I doubt whether pairwise contests are really suitable
      for more than single member contests (which are monopolistic not
      democratic enough, despite politicians contentions). My limited
      experience is that, in single member contests, weighted Condorcet
      and Borda methods are in agreement, as rational counts of quite
      marginal contests, compared to mere elimination methods, like
      Suppementary Vote, FPTP, IRV/AV, which are only ordinal scale
      measures (of more or less), not more accurate rational
      representations of data.</p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Richard Lung.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/03/2023 07:17, Forest Simmons
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      <div dir="auto">1. Let PL be the Pairwise Loser between the two
        candidates with the fewest transferred  votes.
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        <div dir="auto">2. Eliminate every candidate that does not beat
          PL pairwise, including PL itself.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">3. While more than one candidate remains,'
          repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Now Improved Coombs:</div>
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        <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">1. Let PL
            be the Pairwise Loser between the two candidates with the
            greatest Bottom  counts among the remaining candidates.</span>
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          <div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">2. Eliminate
            every candidate that does not beat PL pairwise, including PL
            itself.</div>
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          <div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">3. While more
            than one candidate remains,' repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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          <div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Improved 
            Borda:</div>
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            <div dir="auto">1. Let PL be the Pairwise Loser between the
              two candidates with the smallest  Borda Counts  among the
              remaining candidates.
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              <div dir="auto">2. Eliminate every candidate that does not
                beat PL pairwise, including PL itself.</div>
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              <div dir="auto">3. While more than one candidate remains,'
                repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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              <div dir="auto">Improved Score</div>
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                <div dir="auto">1. Let PL be the Pairwise Loser between
                  the two candidates with the least  scores among the
                  remaining candidates.
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                  <div dir="auto">2. Eliminate every candidate that does
                    not beat PL pairwise, including PL itself.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">3. While more than one candidate
                    remains,' repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Improved Academic Washout Elimination</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">1. Let PL be the Pairwise Loser
                      between the two candidates with the least GPA
                      among the remaining candidates.
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                      <div dir="auto">2. Eliminate every candidate that
                        does not beat PL pairwise, including PL itself.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">3. While more than one candidate
                        remains,' repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">Improved SPE</div>
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                        <div dir="auto">1. Let PL be the Pairwise Loser
                          between the two candidates nearest the worst
                          end of the Elimination Agenda among the
                          remaining candidates.
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                          <div dir="auto">2. Eliminate every candidate
                            that does not beat PL pairwise, including PL
                            itself.</div>
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                          <div dir="auto">3. While more than one
                            candidate remains,' repeat steps 1 and 2.</div>
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                          <div dir="auto">Of all these improved methods
                            this one is the only one that preserves
                            monotonicity ... which is why it is the one
                            singled out for a progression proposal.</div>
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                          <div dir="auto">But all of these methods are
                            Banks efficient ... hence Landau efficient
                            ... which prevents the embarrassment of
                            electing winner that is covered by a loser.</div>
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                          <div dir="auto">None of the extant methods
                            have that guarantee... not Rannked Pairs,
                            nor CSSD, nor Kemeny-Young , etc.</div>
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                          <div dir="auto">-Forest</div>
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