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    <p>To Steve Bosworth,</p>
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    <p> Thank you for your notice. <br>
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    <p>I believe have answered this question before. My understanding is
      that sciences generally depend for their advancement on a
      transition from classification to enumeration of their data. (A N
      Whitehead observed so.} I have personally found this to be the
      case.</p>
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    <p>Good wishes,</p>
    <p>Richard Lung.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2023 05:52, steve bosworth
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                 TO: Richar Lung</div>
            <div class="PlainText elementToProof"><span>  FROM: Steve
                Bosworth</span></div>
            <div class="PlainText elementToProof"><span>Richard, in
                response to your appropriate valuing of<font size="2"><span
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                    "multi-member range of representation" in your
                    contribution fully repeated below, I wonder whether
                    you might see the use of grades rather than numbers
                    in my description of evaluative proportional
                    representation (EPR) as even more appreciative of
                    "the consideration that individual candidates hold
                    an over-lapping group or "party" of opinions. Voters
                    support for parties themselves become less and less
                    partisan with more particular choices of parties in
                    proportionally elected multi-member constituencies.
                    So, it may be the CW becomes less and less an
                    absolute individual choice, within the wider context
                    of personal proportional representation, in
                    multi-member constituencies.</span></font>"<br>
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                  color="#000000"><b class="ContentPasted1">Evaluative
                    Proportional Representation</b></font></blockquote>
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style="line-height:150%;margin-bottom:0.1in;background:transparent;margin-left:0.07in;margin-right:0.21in"><font
                  class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">EPR invites you
                  to vote most expressively by grading at least one
                  candidate’s suitability for office as either
                  Excellent, Very Good, Good, or Acceptable. You can
                  grade Poor or Reject for any candidates you find
                  unacceptable to hold office. You can award the same
                  grade to more than one candidate. As follows, you are
                  guaranteed that your one EPR vote of at least
                  Acceptable will quantitatively increase the voting
                  power (weighted vote) in the council of the elected
                  candidate who you awarded the “highest possible
                  grade”.</font></p>
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                    style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">How
                    EPR Counts Grades</span></font></h1>
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                  class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">For an EPR
                  at-large election of a seven-member council, each of
                  the seven elected candidates must have received one of
                  the seven largest numbers of grades of at least
                  Acceptable from all the ballots cast. Your vote and
                  every other citizen’s vote are added to one of the
                  different <i class="ContentPasted1">
                    weighted votes </i>that will be held by one of the
                  elected members of the council. The council represents
                  100% of the votes cast – no vote is wasted in the
                  sense that it does not help any candidate to win.</font></p>
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              <p
style="line-height:115%;margin-bottom:0.1in;background:transparent;margin-left:0.07in"><font
                  class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">Except in two
                  circumstances, your one vote adds to the weighted vote
                  in the council of the</font></p>
              <p
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                  class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">highest-graded
                  candidate on your ballot. If you awarded this highest
                  grade to more than one candidate, it is exclusively
                  added to the candidate who will have the largest
                  number of these grades as a result. This is justified
                  by the democratic assumption that, other things being
                  equal, the candidate with a larger number of votes is
                  probably better.</font></p>
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                    class="ContentPasted1">The first exception</u> is
                  when that candidate has received too few grades of at
                  least Acceptable from all the ballots cast to be
                  elected. In this event, your ballot is automatically
                  transferred to the candidate on your ballot to whom
                  you awarded your remaining highest grade. If no such
                  eligible candidate is graded on your ballot, your
                  ballot automatically becomes your proxy vote. This
                  proxy is finally added to the weighted vote of the
                  elected candidate publicly judged by your
                  highest-graded candidate to be most fit for office.
                  You can prohibit this use of your proxy vote by
                  specifying this on your ballot.</font></p>
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style="line-height:150%;margin-bottom:0.1in;background:transparent;margin-left:0.07in;margin-right:0.03in"><font
                  color="#000000"><u class="ContentPasted1">The second
                    exception</u></font><font class="ContentPasted1"
                  color="#000000"> can result from your highest-graded
                  candidate having received
                </font><font color="#000000"><i class="ContentPasted1">too
                    many highest grades </i>
                </font><font class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">from
                  all the ballots cast. To avoid the remote but
                  anti-democratic possibility of an elected candidate
                  being able to dictate to the council by retaining more
                  than 50% of all the weighted votes in the council,
                </font><font class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000">our</font><font
                  class="ContentPasted1" color="#000000"> EPR algorithm
                  does not allow a member to retain more than 20% of all
                  the votes cast. This requires at least three members
                  to agree before any majority decision can be made in
                  the council. If the candidate to whom you gave your
                  highest grade received more than 20% of the votes,
                  your ballot could be selected by lot as one of the
                  surplus ballots to be automatically transferred to the
                  remaining highest-graded candidate on your ballot. If
                  no such eligible candidate is graded on your ballot,
                  your
                </font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">ballot
                    automatically becomes your proxy vote and is
                    transferred to the weighted vote of one of the
                    winners as described earlier. As a result, your EPR
                    vote equally adds to the weighted vote of the winner
                    who finally receives your highest grade, remaining
                    highest grade, or proxy vote – the winner you
                  </font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">are
                    most
                  </font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">likely
                    to
                  </font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">see
                    as</font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">
                    represent</font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">ing</font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font class="ContentPasted1"
                    face="Times New Roman, serif"> your hopes and
                    concerns </font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">accuratel</font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font class="ContentPasted1"
                    face="Times New Roman, serif">y. As a result, each
                    EPR council member has a different </font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><i
                      class="ContentPasted1">weighted vote
                    </i></font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">in
                    the council, exactly equal to the total number of
                    ballots counted for them. [</font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font class="ContentPasted1"
                    face="Times New Roman, serif">Feel free to ask for
                    the published article;</font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font class="ContentPasted1"
                    face="Times New Roman, serif"> Appendix A for a full
                  </font></font><font color="#000000"><font
                    class="ContentPasted1" face="Times New Roman, serif">verbal</font></font><font
                  color="#000000"><font class="ContentPasted1"
                    face="Times New Roman, serif"> description of the
                    EPR count; the EPR algorithm; or the report of the
                    output for the count of our simulated EPR election.
                    (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stevebosworth@hotmail.com">stevebosworth@hotmail.com</a>)]</font></font></p>
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              Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 04:28:18 +0000<br>
              From: Richard Lung <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:voting@ukscientists.com"><voting@ukscientists.com></a><br>
              To: Forest Simmons <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forest.simmons21@gmail.com"><forest.simmons21@gmail.com></a><br>
              Cc: EM <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Election-methods@lists.electorama.com"><Election-methods@lists.electorama.com></a><br>
              Subject: Re: [EM] Worst Loser Elimination 2.0<br>
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              Elimination methods may have a policy mandate but they do
              not have a scientific or knowledge mandate. They violate
              conservation of (preference) information. Elimination
              independent of scale of preference is precisely the fault,
              found over two centuries ago, by Pierre-Simon Laplace,
              according to JFS Ross, with Condorcet pairing elimination
              of candidates. It does not take into account the relative
              importance of higher to lower preferences. Why Laplace
              sided with Borda amounted to his opening the way to
              rational counts of preference ranges. Of which Gregory
              supplied the definitive statistical method to next
              preferences, of weighting in arithmetic proportion.<br>
              <br>
              It is doubtful whether the Condorcet Winner (or conversely
              Loser) applies to more than single winner elections, the
              least democratic, lacking multi-member range of
              representation. This perhaps may be demonstrated by the
              consideration that individual candidates hold an
              over-lapping group or "party" of opinions. Voters support
              for parties themselves become less and less partisan with
              more particular choices of parties in proportionally
              elected multi-member constituencies. So, it may be the CW
              becomes less and less an absolute individual choice,
              within the wider context of personal proportional
              representation, in multi-member constituencies.<br>
              <br>
              Regards,<br>
              Richard Lung.<br>
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