<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas Hare method is at-large STV/PR, a method which elects the first preferences of well over 90% of the electorate, from a far better choice of candidates, worthy of the name of a free election system... Promoted by the great pioneers, Clarence Hoag and George Hallett. Its theoretical deficiencies have been refuted in practise by over a century of reliable elections (all things being equal).</div><div>"Hare method" applied to single vacancies is a misnomer.</div><div>The Andrae/Hare system is capable of further rationalisation (as by a rational exclusion count, promoted by myself with binomial STV, still a multi-member system, tho capable of adaptation to the less democratic single vacancy). </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Richard Lung.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>On 22 May 2022, at 12:54 am, Forest Simmons <<a href="mailto:forest.simmons21@gmail.com">forest.simmons21@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><div dir="auto">"The mills of truth grind slowly ..."</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El sáb., 21 de may. de 2022 2:30 p. m., robert bristow-johnson <<a href="mailto:rbj@audioimagination.com">rbj@audioimagination.com</a>> escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="font-size:10pt"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law without his signature. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up, someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently check on an election outcome.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is running for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But people are all of stubborn, stupid, craven, and dishonest.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">robert</div></div>
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