<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 2:40 PM <<a href="mailto:culitif@tuta.io">culitif@tuta.io</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><div><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";color:rgb(48,48,48)">I would like to add Ranked Pairs and similarly complex Condorcet methods at some point, but I might need to ask for help with the logic behind those as they can be notoriously difficult to optimize.</span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol""><span style="font-size:16px">Thanks for your suggestion of the River method. I haven't actually given it much of a look before. I'd suggest we make a poll to see which methods people think would be most important to add to the site, but I have a feeling we'd end up stuck arguing about how to conduct that poll before ever actually doing the poll :P</span></span></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Ha ha. :-)</span></div><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Yeah, RP is notoriously expensive. It was my favorite method until I discovered River. RP is very strong and I find it a million times more intuitive than Schulze, which is its best known competitor. I suspect that you'll get a lot of buy-in for River in this list. Yes, it is less widely known but I think everyone in this list would love to fix that. It has nearly the same intuition as RP but it is vastly cheaper (computationally), and if I recall correctly, it meets all the criteria of RP and Schulze plus one more... I forget which one... Maybe </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">independence of Pareto-dominated alternatives.</span></div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">So... if you like RP but you find it slow... River is its faster, better, but obscure cousin.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><span style="color:rgb(48,48,48)"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol""><span style="font-size:16px">I appreciate you showing interest in the work so far though. It makes me want to continue with the project. I just purchased the domain </span></span></span><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://votevote.page" target="_blank" style="outline:none;box-sizing:border-box;color:inherit;font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px">votevote.page</a><span style="color:rgb(48,48,48)"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol""><span style="font-size:16px"> so hopefully it can have a proper home soon!</span></span></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Yeah, it looks great. Kudos to you. One little detail that I like is that you say "Coomb's RCV" , "Culi's RCV", etc. As you might know, some of us are frustrated that the IRV folk have tried to appropriate the "ranked choice" language, as if theirs was the only election method with ranked ballots. Honestly, if any method was to appropriate the name RCV it should be Copeland because it's the older method. Anway, by adding language like "Coomb's RCV" it sends the message "yeah, this is also RCV, it's a different (better) one". So it helps chisel away at the "RCV = IRV" idea.</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Would you consider replacing "Standard RCV" with something other than "Standard"? Maybe "IRV RCV" or "Australia RCV" or whatever.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheers,</div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Dr. Daniel Carrera</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Postdoctoral Research Associate</font></div><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Iowa State University</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>