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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Top two runoff may be an improvement over FPTP, but it has very little to commend it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And I am surprised anyone should quote France as a shining example. Take a look at the results of the Presidential election in 2002, when the top two candidates (both right wing) had a total of only 36.74% of the first round votes because the larger (majority) left wing vote was split across a diversity of candidates who were all excluded from the second round.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So the majority of voters were not represented by a candidate of their choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>James Gilmour<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Election-Methods [mailto:election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Carrera<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 January 2022 00:45<br><b>To:</b> Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> EM <election-methods@lists.electorama.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [EM] "we only get one shot" (Re: RCV Challenge)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'>On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 2:03 AM Forest Simmons <<a href="mailto:forest.simmons21@gmail.com">forest.simmons21@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'>Yes, perfect for the general public, the politicians, and other voters ... but an easy target for the usual FairVote detractors. ... too easy for them to point out that unlike IRV, this method can elect the Universal Pairwise Loser .... the majority Loser in every head-to-head contest.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'>But the fix is easy ... instead of saying " ...<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>elect the candidate ranked first on the most ballots ..." just say "...elect the majority winner between the top two vote getters .."</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> [however you want to describe the instant top two runoff].</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>People are already used to the idea of top two runoff when there is no majority winner ... and the pairwise information is already there for the instant version ... no need for a separate poll!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Yeah. I think a top-two runoff has a nice balance between simplicity / intuitive appeal while avoiding a reversion to FPTP. Arguably top-two runoff is the most widely used system that is better than FPTP since it's used in France and it was famously used in the state of Georgia this year. It's familiar.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Dr. Daniel Carrera</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Postdoctoral Research Associate</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Iowa State University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />
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