<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 6:49 PM Susan Simmons <<a href="mailto:suzerainsimmons@outlook.com">suzerainsimmons@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Also the STAR camp may not be as hardened against suggestions as the leading IRV proponents are ... including the suggestion of a Condorcet check on the front end.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Certainly. I get good vibes from the STAR team. If you look at their website, they don't have any unfair attacks against other methods. What they say about Condorcet and Approval Voting is fair, reasonable, and honest, and they readily admit that those are good voting methods too. I mentioned this on Reddit a few days ago and I got a positive response. You could imagine making a rule like this:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">1) If there is a candidate with a majority of first-place votes, elect them.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">2) Otherwise, elect the candidate that wins every one-on-one pairwise contest against every other candidate, if there is one.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">3) Otherwise, ... [ STAR ]</div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Rule (1) is redundant but practically I think it would be easier to convince someone with it.</div><br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div>
<div>They might even be open to incorporating the use of VPR (<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"></span>Voting for a Published Rating)... facilitated replication of the ballot recommendations of your favorite candidate, party, or other institution.<br></div>
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<div>No matter what method is adopted, it should be implemented in a <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"></span>Replicate a Published Recommendation Option shell, to simplify the voting process as much as possible for Joe Q Public (remember Joe the Plumber?) or Charles L. Dodgson' s English Plough Boy.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">I have no idea what "Voting for a Published Rating" or "<span class="gmail_default"></span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Replicate a Published Recommendation Option shell" mean.</span></div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div>Anybody have connections to STAR?</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Not really, but one of their members is active on Reddit and seems like a nice person.</div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Daniel</div></div></div>