<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106">This is responding to Kathy's bizarre comments:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr">1st of all, "RCV" is simply a RENAMING of IRV! It is exactly the same counting method and ballot type. I was at the SF elections commission when the term "Ranked Choice Voting" was suggested as a better name for the election system. It was an OPPONENT OF RANKED VOTING that created the term. The (winning) voters of San Francisco, Berkeley and Oakland all voted for "Instant Runoff Voting," but after it passed the cities and media started referring to IRV as RCV BECAUSE OF FAIRVOTE. FAIRVOTE's goal is to use widespread support for single-winner IRV as a path towards less popular "Choice Voting", so Fairvote started using the RCV term for that reason.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr">Your comments claiming that IRV is unfair to ANY voters are unexplainable unless you simply don't know the IRV/RCV vote counting process? Maybe you could offer some example or something?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr"> Regarding suing for a right to an IRV ballot, It's a legal fact. If some voters are allowed to choose IRV, it is unconstitutional to deny that right to the other voters. There is nothing to debate. Using this forum to insult me and confuse anyone who might want to learn the facts has no benefit to anyone. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr">IRV/RCV is the ONLY election reform making progress in America, and it is building faster and faster. Rep. <span style="font-family: sans-serif; white-space: nowrap;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6036"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6037">Don Beyer</b></span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6038"> (D) just introduced a bill for national RCV(IRV) in congress, A new 1st. </span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6080">http://www.</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6082" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">democratizeus.com/2017/06/30/congressmans-bill-revolutionize-america-changing-way-elect-representatives/</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_6083" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244);"> </span> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr">PR supporters might be thrilled that his bill is basically a type of choice voting (3 member districts), but it will never be passed by the GOP anyway. But it will get a LOT of publicity for RCV. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498866168785_4106" dir="ltr">I too used to campaign for PR too, but the reality is these debates about which PR system is better are about as useful as debating who can hold their breath the longest. Besides being illegal for federal elections, Most of the voters and virtually everyone in power is a Democrat/Republican and they will NEVER switch from simple plurality to PR. Besides getting donations from 3rd party supporters, all Fairvote is accomplishing by promoting PR/Choice Voting is confusing Democrat party leaders afraid of one-winner IRV, which was SERIOUSLY holding back IRV reform for years, but now the ball is seriously in motion for major IRV reforms by 2020. The 2000 election failure resulted in in the first major victories for IRV reform, and the 2016 failure will put IRV over the top.</div></div></body></html>