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<big><big>You are right. I stand corrected. But there are safeguards
against letting one of one's own get eliminated early.<br>
The key paragraph from the Electoral Reform Society pdf report
on the Irish general election of 2016:<br>
"But campaigning in Ireland can often be even more local than<br>
this. When deploying multiple candidates in a constituency it is<br>
advantageous for a party to ‘balance’ their vote. This is done
by<br>
strategically encouraging supporters to put different candidates
as<br>
their 1st preference in different areas of a constituency, in
order<br>
to make sure that candidates have relatively sizeable numbers of<br>
votes, so that none are eliminated early on by accident."<br>
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This strategy can back-fire, presumably by over-estimating party
support. Sinn Fein tried it early in the 2000s and let in one of
their greatest opponents, a DUP candidate.<br>
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On 20/12/2016 03:25, C.Benham wrote:
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2016 5:04 AM, Richard Lung
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<blockquote type="cite"><big><big>Strategic voting remains only
a residual problem with STV. But it can occur in real life
elections where a very popular candidate can take away
most of the first preferences of an allied candidate,
subjecting the ally to possible premature exclusion.</big></big></blockquote>
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But surely (in normal STV) the surpluses are distributed before
there are any exclusions, so wouldn't the surplus votes of the
"very popular" candidate save the "allied" candidate<br>
from exclusion?<br>
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Chris Benham<br>
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On 12/20/2016 5:04 AM, Richard Lung wrote:<br>
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<big><big>To all, <br>
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Statistical tests are judged for their accuracy by how far
they follow the scales of measurment (Sidney Siegal:
Non-parametric statistics for the behavioral sciences). The
four scales can also be applied to elections. (Later I found
out that elections are statistical tests, that is in the
sense that my innovation of Binomial STV is such). There is
only one election system that follows all four scales, and
that is transferable voting. Ranked choice or preference
voting are indeed essential to an accurate election system:
that covers the second scale: the ordinal scale.
Proportional counting is also essential: that covers the
fourth scale: the ratio scale.<br>
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Strategic voting remains only a residual problem with STV.
But it can occur in real life elections where a very popular
candidate can take away most of the first preferences of an
allied candidate, subjecting the ally to possible premature
exclusion. Binomial STV solves that problem by making the
exclusion count rational, as well as the election count.<br>
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from<br>
Richard Lung.<br>
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