<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Yes, the inbetween candidates are the problem, when there are some who are almost tops, but they have a flaw, and, due to rivalry, their voters are likely not vote for your most-preferred candidates.<br><br></div>In the ER Bucklin that I like: <br><br>As you said, I'd top-rate the strong top-set & bottom-rate the strong bottom-set.<br><br></div>As for the inbetweens, the tops-with-a-flaw and untrustworthy voters, I'd, for each of them, skip a few levels, and rank them below. I'd try to skip just enough levels so that the candidates better than them would have fully enough rounds to receive consolidated support from preferers of other candidates, before a vote is given to the inbetween candidate. The skipping-distances would be different for the different inbetween candidates, depending on their undeservingness & their voters untrustworthyness.<br><br></div>ER Bucklin should have unlilmited rating-levels available. Maybe, instead of actually showing each level on the ballot, the voter could indicate that s/he wants to skip a certain number of levels between hir ratings of any 2 candidates.<br><br></div>Michael Ossipoff<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Forest Simmons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fsimmons@pcc.edu" target="_blank">fsimmons@pcc.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In XA (aka ATDT) you should vote your Top set at Top, and your Bottom set Bottom. But there is less incentive to vote the remaining candidates near the extremes as compared to MJ/Bucklin.<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Forest--<br>
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You mathematicians are more versatile than most of us, and can perceive<br>
things that for many, are way too confusing. The mathematicians'<br>
descriptions & discussions of XA are confusing for me, which is why I just<br>
call that method "Approve To Desired Total" (ATDT).<br>
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The version of ER Bucklin that is now my favorite, with equal-ranking<br>
anywhere allowed, and with skipping allowed, and without that automatic<br>
skipping that I used to suggest (for preserving MMC) is, of course<br>
equivalent to MJ.<br>
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You said that ATDT is better than ER Bucklin/MJ because, with an electorate<br>
polarized about a candidate, ER Bucklin tends to put that candidate at top<br>
or bottom, rather than at a more middle place that better reflects hir<br>
average likedness.<br>
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But I _want_ to send the good candidates to top, and the bad candidates to<br>
bottom.<br>
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So how is ATDT better than ER Bucklin, as regards voting strategy?<br>
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Michael Ossipoff<br>
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