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I think you are right. That's why Switzerland has PR of the
executive as well as the legislature. Also Northern Ireland with
its power-sharing executive.<br>
The UN knows that majority rule would not work, but that east and
West must rule together.<br>
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Richard.<br>
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On 04/08/2016 22:35, Kevin Venzke wrote:
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proportionality of seats won would be sufficient for an
outcome to be called proportional/equitable. If you elect
representatives to a legislative chamber that makes
decisions by majority rule, you could reasonably fear that
there will not be proportionality of "benefit" received from
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Richard Lung <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:voting@ukscientists.com"><voting@ukscientists.com></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b>
Mercredi 3 août 2016 14h08<br>
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[EM] Proportional representation.<br>
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all,<br>
Social choice theory seems to deny fairness of
elections without an adequate fairness
criterion. The Oxford dictionary defines fair as
equitable, which is to say proportional.
Obviously, then, according to social choice
theory there is no fair electoral system,
because its rules do not allow for the
proportional count criterion of fairness. (It is
based on preference voting - necessary but not
sufficient - Iain Maclean, Democracy and New
Technology.)<br>
It recently occured to me that social choice
theory is an ethnocentric apology for the
hounding of proportional representation from
some 20 American cities. <br>
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Richard Lung.<br>
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Richard Lung.
E-books (mostly available free or reader-sets-price)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.voting.ukscientists.com/colverse.html">http://www.voting.ukscientists.com/colverse.html</a>
Includes the series of books on:
Democracy Science (starting with electoral reform and research);
Commentaries (literature and liberty; science and democracy);
Collected verse (in five books).</pre>
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