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      I think you are right. That's why Switzerland has PR of the
      executive as well as the legislature. Also Northern Ireland with
      its power-sharing executive.<br>
      The UN knows that majority rule would not work, but that east and
      West must rule together.<br>
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    From<br>
    Richard.<br>
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    On 04/08/2016 22:35, Kevin Venzke wrote:
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            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470343999996_3999">I do not think
            proportionality of seats won would be sufficient for an
            outcome to be called proportional/equitable. If you elect
            representatives to a legislative chamber that makes
            decisions by majority rule, you could reasonably fear that
            there will not be proportionality of "benefit" received from
            the policies enacted, no matter how you elected the
            representatives.</span></div>
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                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b>
                  Richard Lung <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:voting@ukscientists.com"><voting@ukscientists.com></a><br>
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                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b>
                  Mercredi 3 août 2016 14h08<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b>
                  [EM] Proportional representation.<br>
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                        id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470343999996_4871">To
                        all,<br>
                        Social choice theory seems to deny fairness of
                        elections without an adequate fairness
                        criterion. The Oxford dictionary defines fair as
                        equitable, which is to say proportional.
                        Obviously, then, according to social choice
                        theory there is no fair electoral system,
                        because its rules do not allow for the
                        proportional count criterion of fairness. (It is
                        based on preference voting - necessary but not
                        sufficient - Iain Maclean, Democracy and New
                        Technology.)<br>
                        It recently occured to me that social choice
                        theory is an ethnocentric apology for the
                        hounding of proportional representation from
                        some 20 American cities. <br>
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                        From<br>
                        Richard Lung.<br>
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                    <pre class="yiv7720009749moz-signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470343999996_4877">-- 
Richard Lung.

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Collected verse (in five books).</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Richard Lung.

E-books (mostly available free or reader-sets-price)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.voting.ukscientists.com/colverse.html">http://www.voting.ukscientists.com/colverse.html</a>
Includes the series of books on:
Democracy Science (starting with electoral reform and research);
Commentaries (literature and liberty; science and democracy);
Collected verse (in five books).</pre>
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