<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr">I cannot respond to what you describe, since it has no relevance to what I said, which is there is no ranked ballot that can reproduce my pairwise preferences if I use different criteria depending upon what the pairs are.<br></div><div><span></span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:46 PM, robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">On 8/29/15 6:17 PM, James Kislanko wrote:<br clear="none">> This example is a perfect demonstration of what I tried to describe a <br clear="none">> decade or so ago.There is no way to make a linear ordering of pairwise <br clear="none">> preferences if the voter uses different criteria depending upon what <br clear="none">> the pair is. I'd like my contribution to the pairwise matrix be based <br clear="none">> upon a ballot that gave "A or B, neither?" for every combination of <br clear="none">> choices.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">while IRV ballots seem to prohibit marking two candidates equally <br clear="none">(except for those unmarked, who are all tied for last place preference <br clear="none">on that particular ballot), there's nothing in a Condorcet ranked-ballot <br clear="none">to stop you from marking A and B equally, whether they be first or last.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">how is<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> A = B = last place<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> any different an expression from "neither"?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">ranked ballot, in which tied ranking is allowed, is the most sensible <br clear="none">form of expressive preference voting. score voting requires too much <br clear="none">"expression" from the voters and approval voting too little.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><br clear="none">r b-j <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rbj@audioimagination.com" href="mailto:rbj@audioimagination.com">rbj@audioimagination.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">"Imagination is more important than knowledge."<div class="yqt2285536138" id="yqtfd82447"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">----<br clear="none">Election-Methods mailing list - see <a shape="rect" href="http://electorama.com/em" target="_blank">http://electorama.com/em </a>for list info<br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>