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      Originally I conceived Approval Margins as using ballots with an
      approval  cutoff/threshold, but since then I've largely gone off<br>
      allowing voters to rank among unapproved candidates (and the
      somewhat more complicated ballot).<br>
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      But I agree that with that type of ballot Approval Margins is  a
      good method.<br>
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      Still, in the example the chicken dilemma is to some extent
      revived. Maybe the A voters can be scared into approving B, in
      which<br>
      case maybe the B voters can again get their favourite elected by
      "defecting".  Arguably it's better for the method to have a kind<br>
      of  (Strangegloveian)  "doomsday machine"  defection deterrence.<br>
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      Chris Benham<br>
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      On 4/30/2014 6:04 AM, Forest Simmons wrote:<br>
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                just change 35 A>B to 35 A>>B, and C wins,
                unless the B faction gets wise and changes to 25
                B>>A or 25 B>A, making A the ballot CW.<br>
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              The explicit approvals are C40>A35>B25, and since
              pairwise C beats A beats B,  Condorect(approval) whether
              total approval or approval margins, elects C.<br>
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            MEA and Smith//Approval also elect C.<br>
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          Your instincts were right to begin with!<br>
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        Forest<br>
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                              Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:53:05 +0930<br>
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                              Subject: [EM] Correction: Approval Margins
                              fails Chicken Dilemma<br>
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                              Oops!  I've just discovered that my recent
                              claim that Approval Margins<br>
                              (and Approval Margins Sort) meets the CD
                              criterion is wrong.   Sorry.<br>
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                              35 A>B<br>
                              25 B<br>
                              40 C<br>
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                              B>C>A>B   Approvals: B60 > C40
                              > A35   (Approval Margins Sort elects
                              B)<br>
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                              Approval Margins: A>B -25,   B>C
                              +20,  C>A +5.  B's defeat is the<br>
                              weakest so B wins.<br>
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                              The combination of CD and Plurality  says
                              that C must win.<br>
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