<div dir="ltr">Ben: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">You eliminate form consideration all but the top 3 people who were ranked, regardless of what rank they got."</span><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">dlw: This was unclear about how the top 3 were chosen. </span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">dlw</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Benjamin Grant <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benn@4efix.com" target="_blank">benn@4efix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Isn’t that what I said? If not, where did I get it wrong?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com" target="_blank">election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com" target="_blank">election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David L Wetzell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 24, 2013 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benjamin Grant<br><b>Cc:</b> EM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [EM] Fwd: Is it professional?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
<u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I limit the collection of ranking info to up to 3 rankings per voter, which is useful for practical purposes, and then treat the up to 3 rankings per voter as approval votes to determine which three of the umpteen candidates proceed. I then process those three with the standard IRV to find the winner. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">dlw<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Benjamin Grant <<a href="mailto:panjakrejn@gmail.com" target="_blank">panjakrejn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">So if I understand you:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">You have a single election. You permit people to rank up to 3 candidates, no more. You eliminate form consideration all but the top 3 people who were ranked, regardless of what rank they got. Then, with only those three left, you proceed to process them with standard IRV to find the winner.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Is that a correct summation of you system, do I understand it right?<u></u><u></u></p></div>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, David L Wetzell <<a href="mailto:wetzelld@gmail.com" target="_blank">wetzelld@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">To: Benjamin Grant <<a href="mailto:benn@4efix.com" target="_blank">benn@4efix.com</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Most IRV in real world limits the rankings to 3 candidates per voter. <br>
In my approach, I treat the rankings as approval votes in the first round <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">and tally up the number of times each candidate gets "ranked" to determine 3 finalists.There are 10 ways to rank 3 finalists so I sort the votes into these 10 categories, tally them up and use the info to have an instant runoff vote among the 3 finalists.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><br>Ben, this is the approach that I said gave the same result for all of the cases you brought up in your initial email to the list, which illustrated why you thought IRV was flawed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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