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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Isn’t that what I said? If not, where did I get it wrong?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standard'>-Benn Grant<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standard'>eFix Computer Consulting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standard'><a href="mailto:benn@4efix.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>benn@4efix.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-ligatures:standard'>603.283.6601<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com [mailto:election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David L Wetzell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 24, 2013 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benjamin Grant<br><b>Cc:</b> EM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [EM] Fwd: Is it professional?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I limit the collection of ranking info to up to 3 rankings per voter, which is useful for practical purposes, and then treat the up to 3 rankings per voter as approval votes to determine which three of the umpteen candidates proceed. I then process those three with the standard IRV to find the winner. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>dlw<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>dlw<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Benjamin Grant <<a href="mailto:panjakrejn@gmail.com" target="_blank">panjakrejn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>So if I understand you:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>You have a single election. You permit people to rank up to 3 candidates, no more. You eliminate form consideration all but the top 3 people who were ranked, regardless of what rank they got. Then, with only those three left, you proceed to process them with standard IRV to find the winner.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Is that a correct summation of you system, do I understand it right?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, David L Wetzell <<a href="mailto:wetzelld@gmail.com" target="_blank">wetzelld@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>To: Benjamin Grant <<a href="mailto:benn@4efix.com" target="_blank">benn@4efix.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Most IRV in real world limits the rankings to 3 candidates per voter. <br>In my approach, I treat the rankings as approval votes in the first round <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>and tally up the number of times each candidate gets "ranked" to determine 3 finalists.There are 10 ways to rank 3 finalists so I sort the votes into these 10 categories, tally them up and use the info to have an instant runoff vote among the 3 finalists.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br>Ben, this is the approach that I said gave the same result for all of the cases you brought up in your initial email to the list, which illustrated why you thought IRV was flawed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#888888'>dlw<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#888888'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>----<br>Election-Methods mailing list - see <a href="http://electorama.com/em" target="_blank">http://electorama.com/em</a> for list info<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>