<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">RF:Interesting. You/David seem to be focused on the balance of power</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">between left versus right, whereas I'm focused on the balance of power</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">between voters ("up") versus special interests ("down").</span><div><br></div><div>dlw: If neither can dominate and we have some exit threat between them and away from them, possibly changing the specific two parties at the top or forcing them to merge with a growing (or regionally strong) third party, then it'll be easier to check the influence of special interests on both of them. <br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">RF:In my book I promote ways for U.S. elections to produce more</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">proportional results, but I'm sure the approach is unlike whatever you</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">have in mind, which I presume is STV.<br>
</span><br>dlw: I support the 3-5 seat nat'l house of reps elections that FairVote is promoting, but I have a soft spot for 3-seat LR Hare for state assembly elections, which make it so that a local third party can win a seat and be decisive about which major party is in power in the state assembly with as little as 10% of the local vote. This is I believe critical for making the major parties pay more heed to the rights of minorities. </div>
<div><br><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">RF:If your perspective is shared by the Green party, that could explain why</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">the Green party says they promote the use of IRV, yet they do not use it</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">for their own primary elections.</span></div><div><br></div><div>dlw: Yup. <br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">RF: I think that one of the best ways to promote election reform (of any/all</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">types) is for a third party to adopt any method -- even IRV -- for their</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">primary elections because that would force state election organizations</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">to accommodate it on the ballot. Or if a state's election rules do not</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">allow it, then that party would do well to offer a candidate for</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Secretary of State (or whichever office handles election issues) and</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">highlight the issue in the voter's pamphlet.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">More realistically I expect election-method reform to come to the United</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">States after it has occurred in other nations, which is the same pattern</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">that occurred for women getting the right to vote.</span></div><div><br></div><div>dlw: I believe that if the GOP civil war grows that they will emerge a weaker center-right-ish party who will have the right incentive to push for American forms of PR that even the playing field between the two major parties and help their tea-party-faction to exit from their party into third parties that will only be influential if they can move the political center (aka, not unlike MLKjr/Gandhi did). I am trying to get #OWSers to see how 3-seat LR Hare would enable the proliferation of LTPs whose smallness would embody their ethos and more reliably provide air-support for their ongoing experiments in local democracy.</div>
<div style><br>I also think that 3rd party aficionados will recognize that the imperative is to incorporate the use of PR asap so as to mitigate the cut-throat competition between the two major parties that prevents us from making progress on so many issues that desperately need change and to trust that as a result of the changed rules that both major parties would be seriously changed for the better even if their names do not change.</div>
<div>dlw<br><br><br></div></div>