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<div style="RIGHT: auto">On 16 Nov 2012 07:29:52 -0800, Chris Benham wrote:<BR>><I style="RIGHT: auto"><BR></I>><I><BR></I>><I> It isn't a big deal if Ranked Pairs or River are used instead of<BR></I>><I> <SPAN id=misspell-1 class=mark>Schulze</SPAN>. "Losing Votes" means that the pairwise results are weighed<BR></I>><I> purely by the number of votes on the losing side. The "weakest<BR></I>><I> defeats" are those with the most votes on the losing side, and of<BR></I>><I> course conversely the "strongest victories" are those with the<BR></I>><I> fewest votes on the losing side.<BR></I><BR>Ted Stern wrote (16 Nov 2012):</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Hi Chris,<BR><BR>Just so I understand this correctly:<BR><BR>You're saying that the pairwise contest A:3 > B:1 should be weighted<BR>more strongly than C:3,000,001 > D:2,999,999? Even though only 4<BR>people care to vote in the A vs. B contest?<BR><BR>Ted<BR>-- <BR></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">Ted,</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">I now see that my previous terse reply was very bad from the <SPAN id=misspell-2 class=mark>POV</SPAN> of </div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">*marketing*, something that normally doesn't interest me and seems a bit</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">premature just after the method has been defined/suggested.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">But to play ball: Losing Votes is very similar to (but better than) Smith//FPP.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">In your example the 2 pairwise contests involve completely different candidates,</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">so why does it matter to you which is the one counted as stronger?</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">But anyway, "locking defeats" in Ranked Pairs in effect disqualifies the pairwise</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">defeated candidate. So, is it really a problem for you that in an election with at</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">least 5 million ballots a candidate with no more than one first-place vote (B in</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">your example) is disqualified?</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">(It isn't like the voters will be given a ballot with just all the pairwise match-ups on</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">it.)</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">BTW, the "<SPAN id=misspell-3 class=mark>ERABW</SPAN>" stands for Equal-Ranking Above-Bottom (Whole).</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Chris Benham</div><VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR></div></body></html>