<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/3 Kevin Venzke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stepjak@yahoo.fr">stepjak@yahoo.fr</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Personally I don't understand why one would want to spend time on a method that you have </span><span>to defend by saying</span></div>
<div><span>"it might work anyway," even if as built the incentives are wrong.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>At worst, it's approval. Not so bad. There's good reason to think that it will lead to more honesty than approval or range. People complain about approval, they really want to distinguish their favorite. So this isn't so much "it might work anyway" as "it probably has a bonus".</div>
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<div><span><span>I like the idea of being able to test things, so I may be biased here.</span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK, I'll net you know when I've tested real human behavior on Amazon Mechanical Turk.</div>
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<div><span>It's taking a shot in the dark. How fantastic must this method be, for that to seem like a good idea? It's hard to</span></div>
<div><span>believe one couldn't go back and work out something that more reliably does whatever you were going for.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I really don't see it as that ugly.</div>
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<div><span>Also, if MJ is a serious proposal it should be called "median rating" and use the Bucklin tiebreaker. You'd </span><span>have</span></div>
<div><span>a name that means something and a tiebreaker that isn't a pain to solve.</span><span> At the top rating (the one we all agree</span></div>
<div><span>might matter) the rules aren't </span><span>even </span><span>different.</span></div>
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<div><span>The name is so bad. Imagine you hear that on the news and are trying to figure out what it means. "Majority"</span></div>
<div><span>doesn't tell you that much (IRV already does majorities and they didn't even need to put it in the name) and</span></div>
<div><span>"judgment" refers to what? The voting. They're calling it "judgment" though. Puke. So dramatic and it doesn't</span></div>
<div><span>even say anything.</span></div>
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<div><span>The tie-breaker is the same thing really. It sounds neat and fair to pull out median votes one by one, but in</span></div>
<div><span>practice that isn't the methodology, you really should use math. Try coding MJ and then see how much code you</span></div>
<div><span>could </span><span>delete, </span><span>how much less thought it would've taken you, </span><span>if you just wanted the Bucklin tiebreaker instead.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
I didn't name it or choose the tiebreaker. I wouldn't have named it that or chosen that tiebreaker. I am sure, however, that these issues are trivial, compared to the fact that there's a book and academic articles promoting MJ. Any median system will elect the same winner in any real election.</div>
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